Alrighty so I work out about 9 times a week and i almost always see this brunette who works at the gym. I 've gotten a few ioi's from her hair touching, looking in my direction, talking louder when i walk by etc... but ive ignored her. She talks to this other guy who works at the gym and he's obviously interested and while they talk she's giving me subtle but obvious ioi's. Now I know the reason why shes interested is 1. because i ignore her and 2. because i walk around the gym like i own it even though when im there i mostly take care of buisness and don't talk very much with anyone.

My question is this how can I escalate this into a conversation while 1. keeping my status high and 2. without making things awkward when i see her afterward. Whether or not this works out im going to be there virtually everyday and i don't want to have to deal with tension afterwards.

Thanks guys.

i guess i'm giving the same answer everywhere, because it applies everywhere:

Hey...
I always see you....
Who are you...?
> I'm [NAME]
So who is [NAME]??
> blablabla
Just that? If you would be famous for something, what would you be famous for?
*in other words: make her qualify...... attraction is done already*

BTW please talk to everybody else first (before/after your work-out if you are serious about training), so you are not the pretend to be high value / "say nothing"-guy that comes out of nowhere... guys who talk to everybody actually have value (no need for pretending), guys who talk to nobody just pretend to have value, thats the difference. proof: guys who talk to everybody dont lose value if they talk to one more....just trying to make you think about it

Good point.

Im pretty well aware of this but I don't talk much with people there because most of the guys are pretty insecure and tend to judge me even though i get plenty of female ioi's.

So basically i' d have to pawn the entire place just to meet the girl, which imo isn't really worth it.

I might start making a few friends just to keep my social value high for future 9's i run into though.

1) why would guys in the gym be insecure?
2) even if they were insecure, why cant you make friends with them and lead them? teach them confidence? be an example / role model for them?
3) why are you concerned about people judging you? are you seeking validation? high value people do not care! they are high value anyway.

your mind is inhibited with bullshit that is not true... (again: just trying to help here)

and dont wait for a whole fucking month to approach this girl, just because you are befriending the whole place first now!

go to her directly, have some balls... just tell her that you always see her *assume attraction because she has seen you too, and frame her into being attracted to you, she will always follow, she's a girl * and ask her who she is... like "i have power, you have power, we should hang out because we are at the same level, but first: tell me if you are really good enough for me or if its all an illusion >> qualify her". you dont have to ask her out the first time you talk to her.. you just need to befriend her first, you will see her a lot of times after that anyway...

and if it goes wrong, so what... are you having one-itis? are you in love??

you can still sarge the rest of the gym... AND THE REST OF THE WORLD

Haha relax i know shes just a cute girl that works at the gym i go to.

Ive had one itis before trust me this isn't it. Im more worried about it being awkward everytime i go to the gym afterwards if things don't work out.

As for why the guys are insecure id say its because im a different race than them and wear nicer clothes and drive a nicer car than some of them. Although at the end of the day none of that shit matters those things do make a statement in this scene and it tends to piss people off.

You did make some good points though as far as seeking validation, and getting stuck in my head. Something im working on.

just let others feel ackward.... it doesnt exist for you... thats power!

the way you post (read it yourself), you can read that you are seeking validation somehow (because you are concerned what other people, that you see on regular basis, will think of you.)
I dont think you have this problem with people you never see again (because you talked about "who gives a shit if an UG blows you out" in a different thread) but with people you see on regular basis you need validation (according to what you write yourself)
on 1 end you are very pretentious, arrogant, you feel above the rest (i have this problem too sometimes, i must confess, so its not a personal attack) and on the other end you are worrying a lot about what others think of you?? that doesnt make sense man! its a weird combination!

and i dont know where you live, but what has race got to do with it in 2008? All races can be rich/poor, beautiful/ugly, smart/dumb, AFC/PUA...

and if i drive a $100,000+ car and stick my nose up high when i get out and ignore everybody else who has a $10,000-$20,000 car, of course they will not like me and there will be super ackward pressure towards me from others.

but if i drive a $100,000+ car and am friendly to everybody and treat everybody the same, then i am a role model and everybody wants to be like me and i get respect from everybody.

so which personality you want to be?

The first example is a very insecure guy, pretending to be better than others, covering up his insecurities with material bullshit. This guy might be able to attract a very dumb materialistic girl, who doesnt give a shit about him, but wants his "material".

The second example is a very secure guy, who has all material bullshit, but doesnt give a damn about it, but knows all other people really want to be like him and just gets into that role to be an example just out of friendliness to help others. This guy will attract all girls, from dumb to smart. He could even fuck the dumb one that the other example could get, but he will have better girls to fuck, so he wont bother!

In spades.

You're completely right, its a defense mechanism instilled into my psyche after years of being quite the opposite. Hence my being here, to get over my insecurities and create an attractive lifestyle period.

Your two examples hit home because in certain circles i was the latter but in newer circles i tend to be the former. Deep inside i know I am capable and have the pontial, but channeling it is a personal obstacle.

Inner game work is probably going to help me a great deal.

So i appreciate the honesty.

Keep it coming.