Mixed signals, is it a lost cause?



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:42 am 
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Hey guys I've got a real afc problem here

I met this girl towards the start of this college semester, and I didn't think anything of it at first she was just another phone number, then i began to hang out with her and the more i did of course the more I began to like her, so knowing this i went out and made it a point to meet other women (6) and I still have thing for this girl, but heres where it gets tricky after about a week, she took me to meet her roommates which resulted in an interogation, luckily though I played it cool and got all of her roommates to like me and accept me. So then one night she came over to my dorm at 12 am, and we had a water gun fight at one point we she fell on top of me and just as it was about to get intimate my room mate came to investigate the noise

So we hung out more and we began to get closer spending more time together doing more stuff, she came over every night to my dorm and watched movies with me or we would go get food together, I made sure to neg her, and stuff and never gave compliments too early and when i did it was never about her looks, so one night sitting there jsut the two of us browsing through her music collection she just said hey you're fun to hang out with and I really like you but I just don't think i want a relationship now, so i told her i understood and respected that so for a few days I backed off and gave her space so i went on and met new girls at school and she saw me with atleast 4 of them laughing and stuff, so then she sends me a txt saying;
"so why haven't we hung out for the last few days? are you upset with me?"
so before I could reply she was at my front door with a dvd and a blanket, so we kind of just cuddled and watch ed a movie but nothing intimate happened, so we ended up falling asleep togehter and she left in the morning,

so any ways shes come over every night ever since, and one night at the gym she brought over her friends just to meet me (my friends were with me but she didnt introduce them)
and things have become a little more physical she sometimes grabs my butt she doesnt care if i playfully slap hers, and we cuddle sometimes
and she always asks me to walk her back to her dorm room, and everytime she passes mine she will stop by or knock on the door or something to let me know shes there.
but it just never seems to move past that

there have been times when it might have gone intimate and I might of gotten a kiss or something but one of my friends keeps unintentionally cock blocking me,

so thanks for reading I would just like some feed back on your opinions


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:13 pm 
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you have unfortunately slipped into what so many guys, including myself, have slipped into before. The dreaded "friend zone". Since you did not escalate early enough, you stayed too long in the comfort phase meaning you got LJBF'd. When she comes over and stuff she's now just being a good friend. Some say you can get out of the friend zone, though i'm no expert in that area, so I'd advise you to search the forum to find out how. Otherwise, my advice is to keep her as a friend, but as far as getting a girl, move on.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:41 pm 
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ok you could do 2 things.

1) try the triangular stare and try a kiss. i mean if she always come to you're room, i think its a good sign...

2) skip her for 1-2 weeks. then game her really well. it's the best way ti escape LJBF.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:48 pm 
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first off I would just like to thank you guys for the input and advice, it means alot that you take time out to help me.

as for skipping her a week or so it might be harder than what I had originally presumed because i didnt notice it before but everytime i leave my room I have to walk in front of hers and she always wants to tag along, and while for most reasons I can tell her "im just heading to amilies for dinner etc." what should I do if im in my gym clothes and she wants to come?

secondly as for her coming over every day, its more like night, she knows Im always up late and my roommates are in bed, so she comes when they;'ve fallen asleep and Im still up alone, she will come over unexpected or call first, and even if i say oh Im going to bed right now she will say oh well ill just come say Hi really quick.

then as mentioned before when she always brings her friends t meet me they always say something along the lines of "oh we've so much cool stuff about you" or "oh so you're the guy that shes always talking about"

these are jsut a few of the mixed signals I get, besides her always wanting to play fight or wrestle so Im just confused, or in denial one or the other lol


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:49 pm 
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hey i see. so when you say "we fight" , its really good to escalate, i mean, you should go for a kiss while fighting. thats how i see it: she comes to you're place, you neg her playfully and start a fight, you get her locked and stare in the eye longer while being close to her, then do the kiss. it should come naturally. i mean, it will NOT kill you if you try! i guess you don't want to be "just friends" with her, so you got to kino escalate to a kiss. the WORST thing that could happen is that you kiss and she says "i'm sorry, i didn't thought you think of me like that" . but i think by what you say she will appreciate the move :P

im not a pro btw lol, if you don't feel it like natural to you, don't force things too much.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:55 pm 
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very helpful http://www.sosuave.com/articles/escaping.htm


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:09 pm 
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You're only one of everybody on this forum who truly understands your position with this girl.

Based solely on what I have read from your posts it can mean either she is just waiting for you to make the first move or you have fallen far into the friend zone. The longer you leave it to make your move the more likely it will be that the later statement is the better description of your situation.


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Update:

so ive ignored her now for a day or two and now, shes even more in my face, i ran into her at the gym tonight and while I was running she told me she was wondering if i wanted to go to the club and go dancing with her and her friends, so I told her if i didnt have any plans I would see if i could go,

so I went on to another machine, and then she comes over to me and wants me to teach her to box ( i just started boxing and she knows it) so i told her I was trying to do my routine, and if i had time when I finished I would teach her, and her friend, so after about 30 minutes shes just kinda sitting at the machine across from me jsut kinda staring at me, so i got off and we messed around in the boxing ring, I think this may have messed me up though, but i left with out her (we usually leave together)

so then back at my dorm she pops in thinking she was going to stay awhile but I told her I had to study and maybe she should come back tomorrow

but heres some icing on the cake, I found out her best friend has a thing for me and has for some time now, I was thinking, do you suppose that maybe that has a bearing on why she said she didnt want a relationship?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:20 pm 
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That was a great link, dlayer, thanks!

And Church--man, I wish I had your problem! :shock:

She's already given you huge kino and lots of it (grabbing your ass is not done unless there's attraction, playful or not). At this point, I think I'd definitely be ready to use one of those wrestling games to get her close for the triangle-look-kiss.

But like nobody said, make sure it's not forced. If she really doesn't want it, you'll get the message and be able to salvage the situation fairly easily, I'd wager, but I think the deck is stacked in your favor here. Her words say one thing, but everything else she does seems to say another.

Keep us posted!


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So just keeping you posted, so keeping up my ignoring game, shes really started to miss me, shes offered me rides to places and is just doing anything to get my attention again, she flags me down at school just to say hi, and Ive noticed, she stares at me alot, today at breakfast in the cafeteria me and my buddy noticed her staring at me for a full minute, I noticed shes also trying to do things to make me jealous (talking to this guy she knows i dislike) but i just dont let it bother me

so this is around day 3ish now so should I start to game her back? or let it ride a little longer?

ps dlayer thank you for that link dude, it was awesome


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DUDE! good game so far, im proud of ya :) . ok now you should go talk to her (staring is an invitation to talk) if you don't she will get angry at you. You should ask her on a "date" too. but not afc way.

the best way is to say to her that you need female advices for your new shirt(s)
and she should JOIN you on your quest to style. :P

if you don't invite her, you are gonna jump through her hoops (her invitations to go out) and that makes you less alpha. and you must go out on a one on one with her (no friends), because it shows that you have a lot of confidence.
ps: try to kiss close on a date, it will seal the deal.

that's it. follow this and you are in business my friend! :D

btw, i'm a beginner too man, but i read a lot and I REALLY think its the best way, but don't blame me if it doesn't work 8)


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