I am a big time newb, this is my very first post. All right so one thing I am starting to notice about girls is they all seem to know how to play guys. I am not trying to sound cocky at all, but I can get basically any girls number and take her out. The thing is I am only successful with about half. Successful as in laying the pipe down haha. But i am always really really nice to hot girls i like. So is this a turn off to all of them?

Hey Man

You answered you own question in the last line of your post "I am really really nice to hot girls" start with that search some negs and go from there[/quote]

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I work mine off so i can kick yours when im in the field!!

Just because you are new, I'm holding my tongue on all the bad comments I feel compelled to make. I suggest you read mystery method because it gives you the most structure of how the entire game process works. It also gives you the theory as to why it works making it easier to have natural game. With that being said, girls of particular beauty know they are beautiful because they have been told this their entire lives. By being nice to them from the start demonstrates:
A) low value because you are proving that you want to be part of her world instead of HER being apart of YOURs.
b) that you see her as higher value because you feel the need to suck up to her.

I hope that helps.

All right thank both good ideas. I appreciate holding back the comments lol, pretty sure there are plenty. I am talking to this really hot girl right now, I think i came on too strong at first but now im backing off. Just last night we had this text sequence or whatever...and she texted first.
her. whats up?
me. Just getting ready to go out.
her. Oh man i have so much homework tonight lol
me.that sucks
her i know right.
me.well....if you need a smile you can always think of me...
her. of course lol
I didnt text back after she said that, and i waited about two hours from when she first texted me to answer. Any comments on that or ideas on how i should take it from here?

just in response to the thread title
few girls know "the game"
all girls have game.
THE game is the structured formula guys use to beat the girls game.

More accurately girls are the reason the game exists.
All girls are game.
The game is what guys play using a structured formula.

Moral and ethics depending. There are guys that are not cool with taking a girl away from the guy when the two of them are together.