Whenever I'm out at a party, or sarging or whatever, I can easily start convo's with anyone, and people will generally open quite well. There's this one girl at my school however which is like a brick wall.

No matter what I say, she will not open. This is frustrating as with the pick up arts one should be able to get anyone to open, right? It's like she doesn't want to talk to me, which I can't get my head round, because at parties especially everyone wants to talk to me, and my social proof is off the charts.

Have you guys had similar experiences? Or advice for me to break this ice queen . I really want to know what could make this girl tick haha

I know this isn't what you want to hear, but some girls are just not attracted/intrested in you.
Being a master PUA just gives you the best possible chance out there to pick up. Its not 100%...but as for that you should start talking to her friends, and try to make a good impression on her friends. Its a little tricky since I dont know the circumstances.

i appreciate your honesty. Thank you. I don't like her friends though lol so i am not going to bother. It was just bugging me.

lol dude there goes your social proof. her friends dont like you; you dont like her friends nothing will ever come of this. sorry

"if ya wanna be my lover gotta get with my friends"-weird al

Try calling her on it. It will be a disqualifier and a neg. Next time you see her, just go up to her in a really Amog way and ask her what her problem is. That might be all it takes to get her to like you, is a well placed neg.

Why do you want her? There are two possible reasons:

1. Ego

2. You actually want to fuck her

On one hand you might just want to validate yourself and game her to prove something to yourself and/or other people. If that's your motivation, forget it. You don't want to fall down that path.

On the other hand, if you're going in there with some real sexual intent with no regard for ego-gratification, continue to persist with masculine polarity and it'll work.

I think you misunderstood me... Just try to be cool with her friends, and make them talk about you in that sense that "Hey bliss101 is a cool guy", once her friends like you she'll wonder whats so intresting about you that they like. Its like a undirect approach.. shes probably used to down playing games, so my modo " if the front door is locked, check the back door"..

And plus the spice girls, " if you wana be my lover, you gotta get with my friends" blah blah blah... common you know you can do it.

Why do you want to game her if she an ice queen? Is it for an ego boost? Seriously, she can't worth gaming...

Some people will not find you attractive. Period. It would be a shitty world if they did. Maybe you come across as arrogant? And she can detect that...I mean you did say "my social proof is off the charts" and "everyone wants to talk to me" in your post, do you come across like this in reality as well?

I believe it was spice girls that said that one not weird al..........

IME ice queens can be worth it if you can get past the huge shield of ice. first off REMEMBER YOU ARE ALPHA so you dont not seek validation from any outside source you being is your own validation, so if validity is the reason its not worth it because on some subconscious level there is that need for validity. If she is really worth the bone the be COLD BLOODED (in the prince voice) not fully but just on a level to humor

....... I don't believe that some women just won't like you, you just have to pull the right strings thats all ........ you have to find what makes her tick thats all and when you do go for it.


Best of luck .............. ice queens can get hectic but there is a reason why they put up so a big wall. find out why

well weird al primarily rips off peoples. so it probably was thats just where i'd heard it from.

its in his song Polka Power

and i guess spice girls-Wannabe

ahah