NLP Against Bullies?



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:32 pm 
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whats your take on this? good idea bad? would it work and how?


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there are no quick solutions with NLP i am afraid, no magic words or the like (ok, "STOP" is one). but what Derren Brown was also referring to recently concerning avoiding or deflecting aggression is something that is called "diversionary non sequiturs". this is basically a confusing technique in Hypnotherapy that is supposed to interrupt patterns with the client in order to step in and take the lead and change frames e.g. dont know how familiar you are with NLP (you are in school? not much i guess), but you can get an idea of what that means if you google "Hypnotic Interruption Techniques" e.g.

Now you clearly dont want to hypnotize them, you just want to create enough confusion so you can break their patterns (get them off guard) and then redefine the situation or simply walk off. risk is you could sound like an idiot and if you cant keep a straight face you will.

But I am wondering how they can bully you, you said you were tall, strong and heavy in the other thread, so they certainly wont get into a fight with you i guess. What i found interesting is that you played along a lil bit in the chocolate bar scene, i mean these guys come up to you and you know they are assholes, so why even talk to them in the first place?
you dont have to be friendly with them, you dont have to be mean either, but telling them "no" and turning away seems reasonable. and if you think you have to engage then turn the tables around, everytime they want you to do something, just ignore that and make them follow you, giving them little commands like "please stand here" or lets sit down or something like that, even making a step towards them in a non threating way so they have to make a step back. move their body, the mind will follow, the main object is to make them follow with little acceptable requests so they cant easily follow their own plans (which seems to be dumb wicked games that are played to see how far they can go, again if you shut them off quickly they should pretty soon lose their interest).

back to NLP, it is certainly also possible to tell some stories with embedded commands ("... i had this girl and she was such a pain in the ass i had to tell her to STOP TALKING TO ME, but she went on coming up to me and you know how that makes you really feel sick, can you imagine, and you really wanna puke just by looking at it. Every time you come up to me, i told her, it is really an unpleasant feeling, FOR YOU it was better YOU WILL NOT EVEN SEE ME. you just don't know me. finally she gave in and if you really start thinking about it, it was a good decision, we all will feel better if we handle things this way i guess. dont you agree ...." and so on, something like that) the story needs not to make sense as long as it is not completely absurd. and you have to change tonality slightly for the commands, emphasizing the key words. tell them a couple of them everytime they show up and see if it can change their mind.


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