So it's fresher's week and i've been out for a lot of social drinking, everything's been going great, i've been k-closing and number closing every time with little effort (refraining from f-closing for now not wanting to shit in my own garden).

Anyway i met a friend of a friend's SPAM (if you understand that) on the way home the other night and that's where things started to go down hill. We just had a nice chat and i ended up getting her number and leaving it at that. I was completely overcome with one-itis and literally just turned retarded overnight because she just seemed so innocent and nice.

LONG STORY SHORT I basically couldn't bring myself to play things normally and stupidly threw the rulebook out of the window on day 2 and i just have the feeling that things have gone down hill.

Any suggestions?

its hard to understand whether you did anything wrong or right, give more details.

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Yea dude, if you went AFC on her ass that just sucks. THERE ARE MANY MORE HOT GIRLS AT COLLEGE. ITS FUCKING COLLEGE.



And like you said you're a freshman, get your garden planted and move on.

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Well basically I kept a level head when i met her but went almost completely AFC on day 2 through the phone (ashamed to say i called her first) i gave it a while then she called me and we spent a couple hours walking round campus getting to know each other, to be honest i really did go completely AFC and was more concerned with enjoying my time with her than moving forwards.

We both had different plans the night after (last night) and i've sort of got back on track and not even considered calling her back since.

I closed with a few numbers last night (including 2 hb8s one of which was giving heaps of iois even with a boyfriend)

I'm considering giving it a bit of time and starting a clean slate with the girl i went AFC on, anyone reckon it will work?

I want to point out that at the time i met this girl it was one-itis, now it really is almost a mistake that i want to correct rather than leaving a loose end untied.

what you mean by this I don't think there's anything wrong with calling a girl first in fact its more common and makes her the one waiting on you to call not you the one waiting on her. That being said I've found that giving my number out a shitload and very easily is also effective. I would say that generally its no big deal for you to call her first and there's no set rule on when to call her. That whole 3 days thing is totally retarded. The very fact that instead of calling her whenever the hell you want and waiting 3 days is actually putting her on the pedastal and a very needy behavior. Call whenever the hell you want. Barring like 3 in the morning on a school night or something.
Instead of enjoying your time with her just enjoy your time and let her be a part of that. As far as focusing on moving forwards I find that I focus more not on moving forwards as far as just physically, but also helping each other grow as people. You know move forwards in all ways. If I'm guessing right you place too much value on the physical aspects of a women and not their other traits. Women are our equals and I treat them as such.
once again do what you want, don't let the way she feels determine what you do. Although callibrating what you say to her feelings is a little necessary I don't think its as necessary as you are making it. If you want to call her then call her. In order to determine this think about whether she is adding to your life or taking away. Ask yourself is this a girl that I enjoy my time with? If so why? What about her other than just physical things do you like? If it turns out that its not benefiting the both of you to have each other in each others lives then the answer is call her back. If it doesn't benefit both of you then find someone else. In any relationship friendship, fuck buddy, or wife both people should be gaining equally from having the other. If this is not the case then it is an unequal relationship that should be either equalized in some way or cut from you life.
I hope all this was easy enough for you to understand my friend sometimes I go crazy with my thoughts, with love,
Ty

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As hard as it seems, you have to follow the rule book. Even if you do like her a lot. Always plan on playing the girl untill she dick rides. Once you get your nut, then make the decision as to weather you want to keep seeing her. After all, at this point, you ultimatly have the upper hand. As for your current situation, get out there and sarge your ass off and ignore her for a bit. Stay strong

I'm thinking this is what i'm going to do now, i'll no doubt have an opportunity or two with her in the future seeing as though our social circles connect, although not directly. Until then i think i'll sarge like there's no tomorrow

The important part is that at least now you’re noticing that you’re doing something wrong. Eventually you will be able to avoid doing things wrong, and in the end it will be natural for you to do things correctly and you won’t have to try not to do the wrong thing. It’s all a process of refinement. Mistakes are an unavoidable part of learning.

cheers for the input guys, think i'm back on track now

my .02

With this girl...so what if you don't get her in bed. If you enjoy time with her...cool...you've got a new friend. Not EVERY girl you meet has to end up with her legs in the air. It's good to have friends on the other side man.

Just for the record i would be more than happy to have her as a friend and not take her to bed, i'm not the sort of person who sees a sexless night as a failure and on the contrary would see that too many nights ending in sex would be a bad thing.

How would i look bedding some girl on my second or 3rd night here that i've only known for a short while? Sure a few jocks might see it as cool or whattever but in the long run i would look like a self-centred twat.

Once again, cheers for the support, i shall have this post die now, it's been up too long

It all depends on how you treat your ex-f partners on how other will treat you in your community.

I shagged four girls in my building my second semester. I treated them as valuable humans, respected them as people aiding in my enjoyment. One of the girls bad mouthed me when they found out about another, but a couple of girls actually defended me in how I still talk to them the same and not sleazy or how I introduced one to her boyfriend.

I guess I could have set up some mLTR's but I was sort of a natural within my extended social circles and it was the mutual respect that helped me from turning into being called a sleaze bag.