Hi all,

I have a strange question, likely to make a few eyes roll, but your help would be appreciated...

I am in my mid-20s, and have been in a relationship since I was 19. I split-up from her recently, and am now getting back into the game.

Anyway, over the past year I have become fairly successful, and as a result, I travel the world and earn a very nice income. I am not rich, but certainly wealthy and successful.

Here is my question: Whilst not exactly classy, I am often told that looks and money are two big factors for women, so how do I work my success etc into my routine, without coming across as some classless, arrogant show-off?

I know this sounds like a good problem to have, but I am curious as how best to use it to my advantage.

Thanks,

Dean

you just threw the ball into my court, my friend. if anyone is good at

communicating how rich they are without coming off as an asshole its me!

just buy yourself shit that you like for instance I walk around with a:

Ipod
iphone
anaconda skin wallet
fake rolex
and keep a gps in my car incase she gets in it.
lacoste shirts
expensive jackets
yada yada.

but heres the funny part. buy yourself the world make yuorself look like

the most successful guy in the room. but then dont buy her shit!

go out to dinner, make sure your goin double dutch. I know the money

doesnt matter but girls prefer to pay for things themselves so they dont

feel like your paying for them to have sex with you.


Rule of Thumb: never let the dollar bill become awackward between you two.

I used to not talk about money, but it kinda clears the air if do. so you are never too rich to not talk about money.

(p.s. she wont like you better if you buy her shit, she will actually like you less thinking: you have something invested and your too good to bail ship. if only girls were that easy.)

Fake Rolex? So, not that rich then... just shitting ya

to communicate your wealth i would (if i had any) simply by cloths that are not only smart, but that are made to fit. A nice watch that is gold preferable and finally, nice shoes. I know that doesn't seem like it'll make you look rich, but if you have spent the money on these items, there wont be a woman around whom wont notice the value of them.

Or, you can just have 50's on 100's in your wallet...

lol nope.

the anaconda wallet was baught in venezuela for $5

the iphone has a employee plan which comes out to $30 per month with everything

my ipod is a nano cuz i couldnt afford a regular one lol.

my lacoste shirts were stolen by my cousin. i dont steal.


and the gps is because im a delivery boy


pretty cool illusion i've got goin on eh?

lacoste shirts dont make you look rich or anything even close to it, fitted shirts and such are a much better choice. lacoste shirts = preppy + conformist

Yekis 101- If you want to sleep with a women, you don’t have to spend your money on them, you just need to let them be around your money.

Hell, even Neil Strauss, Mystery, and some of the other greatest PUAs in the world rented out a mansion in the Hollywood hills and bought a used limo to seem rich to women.

lol!

Not to sound mean, but your illusion sucks. If I saw a guy with that stuff, I would most probably think wanna be. Tho I have a feeling your under 20, and if this is the case girls in your age group will most probably fall for it.

I am referring more to the initial conversations with a girl. By the time she sees my car etc, she will already know.

But that is the problem, if you mention money in the opening stage, it might seem a little lacking in class.

I have the ipod, GPS and most of the other stuff you mentioned, but that is not really my style. I have a house in Madrid, and speak Spanish, so I am wondering if I can use that in my opener, and then they will put 2+2 together.

Thanks for the input thus far.

I would tend to agree, I am mid-twenties, and really, I can only see that shit working on two types of girls: really young girls (pre-20) and the other type I am not going to mention, but I am not looking to target either.

But hey, if it works for you, that is awesome.

There's 2 ways to go with lots of money as far as I see it.

First one is trying to subtly drop hints about the fact that you have money by including things in your conversation that insinuate the fact. For instance, you tell her how that reminds you of the last time (this says that you've done this more than once) you were doing something expensive, but don't talk about the cost, like trips to foreign places, sailing on the mediteranean, skiing in the Alps, surfing in Australia. I have no clue how much money you have, but if you actually have a decent wad, you're probably spending it on expensive things, as people tend to spend their money according to their earnings, so you just talk about the stuff you do and it'll show. I think that if you're doing this purely to convey how much money you make, then you're trying to impress her, you're likely gonna wind up with a gold digger, it's manipulative and I think it's cheaper than that fake rolex mentioned earlier.

The other way to go, is to not try to mention it, get it out of your head. No one cares. I know I don't give a shit how much money you make if you're a good guy and I know any woman worth picking up won't care either. There's tons of students with massive debt and living of maccaroni and cheese that are getting amazing women and there's lots of rich rock stars getting stupid, gold digging whores, so their money isn't coming into play, it's their personality. Have fun with her, make her attracted, show her you're attracted to her, touch her, build sexual tension and get the show on the road. When she sees your car, or your place, or your art collection, then she's gonna know you're not broke, but you didn't use that to pick her up and she's gonna respect you for that and you'll actually get decent relationships this way. Not to mention, much fewer gold diggers, so less worry about them using you for that money.

Just be yourself man, leave the coin out of it.

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I think you're a poser and that you either think you're way cooler than you really are, or hate yourself because you can't just be real, but that's just me. I wear some nice ass clothes that don't cost a lot, I don't give a shit about brand and the most expensive article on me is my $100 pair of dress shoes, but I don't do it to impress other people, I do it cause it makes me feel god damned good. If I felt half as sharp wearing a tshirt and ripped jeans, then I'd do that, but that's just not me.

You on the other hand, are being so utterly incongruent and being everything that isn't you, just trying to fool people that you're something you're not. You're not being fair to them and you're not being fair to yourself. If you like the shirts, great, but if you wear them because you think other people will think you're cooler, then burn them and buy something you are actually comfortable in. Same with the rest of your "things"; material possessions are so ridiculous unless it's stuff you actually care about and that IS you. Chicks don't give a shit about sports cars, iphones, rolexes, etc; they've just been told they should care and you've been told you should care, but when you are a really cool person, then they don't give a shit and you can actually look yourself in the mirror and be happy about who you are.

I think you're seeking approval from others because you're unhappy with yourself. Trying to impress us with your scam and impress all the people you scam. That's not where happiness comes from and I hope you realise it before you've wasted years of your life with faulty beliefs.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

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Ya i guess i never really thought about it before.....maybe i am just crazy insecure! maybe i should just throw everything i have, away. And live like you.

oh lordy lawd tell me how to live!

Heh, I never wear all that prep crap. I dress casual but with some accent. My mother has very good taste of style and she bought me good clothes about 2 years ago which I wear till today. They fit me perfectly and compliment my body.

I buy something new twice a year or so, but when I dress, I try to make the clothes match and they look perfectly. I mostly have casual but nice looking leather jackets, simple jackets, jeans (stone washed) and expensive boots/shoes. Sometimes I as a youngster look better than other older businessmen. One of my dress sets looks something like this but tidier:
http://www.roughgroove.com/uploaded_ima ... 757911.jpg
And to studies I usually dress business/casual. With nice business short+jacket and cool dark blue jeans.

I don't have any rich accessories (no watch, no jewelry) except my 1000 dollar pocketpc which was given to me as a present and glasses for 60 dollars which is not that expensive actually, but I still look like a cool business type. Can't wait till I earn more money so I can buy those armani suits.

Glad to see you missed the entire point of what I said. I said that you are a poser and doing stuff for other people, not yourself.

I have an 80gig ipod, which many people see as excessive, but I have every intention of filling it up and I would lose my mind without music, so that's pretty congruent with who I am. As I stated, I also dress in expensive looking clothes that aren't that expensive, but that's cause I can't afford more and I love to look nice, not to impress anyone else.

I do my best to find value in your posts, although I personally think that you think you're hot shit and I don't see it, so perhaps you could do me the courtesy of not being a dick and actually thinking about what I say. I could go into your "ask me" thread and say precisely what I think about your advice, but I've given you the respect of biting my tongue, so show me some as well.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye