Apparently I have to post in the newbie section here, but I'm not sure if this quite fits. Feel free to moves it around if needed.

Anyways, I guess I'll start with my story. I was raised in a very Christian household while being home schooled. Didn't have any dating type interactions until college. At first, I failed pretty epically with women due to my inexperience and lack of familiarity some basic social patterns (don't homeschool your kids), but things got a little better as time went on, mostly due to me trying to learn as much as possible through trial and error. And boy, were those some epic errors at the beginning! At this same time, I began to realize that I didn't really believe Christianity anymore (lets not debate this issue here).

One of the tenets of Christianity that was brought up with is the concept of not having sex before marriage. I began to realize that not having sex felt way more wrong than having it possible could. Anything that causes that kind of tension and pain when abstained from has to be a pretty basic, normal function.

At any rate, I still remain a virgin in my senior year. Every girl I've really clicked with has turned out to be Christian, and has been very, very serious about waiting until marriage. I've tried to "push the limits" during make out sessions, but I've always been firmly stopped passed a certain point. It feels unfair, though, as there are certain things I can do that will get girls to actually start moaning while completely clothed, but they still won't go any further. Feels unfair to me as it sounds like they're getting more out of it than I am, but thats another topic. Up until now, I've gone with this, respecting her wishes, but now I don't think I can do this anymore.

I think I need to make the sexual aspect of the relationship non-negotiable. The problem is, it seems like every girl I hit it off with at my school and elsewhere winds up being a very serious Christian. I think my upbringing is helping us create a better connection, though the relationship seems to suffer when I don't share her faith.

I'm really not sure what to do. My school is engineering only, so we have very few women, and even fewer attractive ones, so I always have a tendency to take what I can get. This isn't going to work anymore, though. I need to break out, and end my 21 year dry spell somehow. Any else have a similar situation, or have some tips for those in mine?

Dude! DON'T try to convince/force her to have sex when you know that she wants to wait until she's married.

So if you have sex, how much do you think she will regret it the day after?
Go for girls who wanna sleep with you.

And btw, god doesn't exist and religion is fucking crap!

I've never done any forcing. My "convincing" was more try a combination of trying to see where her limits were, as well as trying to give her a small glimpse of what she might be missing. Trust me, it would be hard to be much lower pressure about it without having monk like levels of self control. I'll keep that in mind, though.

As for the God and religion thing, I'm inclined to agree, but I think I've only ever met one or two girls in my entire life who claim to be non religious. The majority seem to be semi serious to serious Christians, making things a little rough for me.

I can relate, because you’re pretty much telling my story too. I finished all my general eds when I was in high school and now I’m studying computer science, and there are literally 0 women in my classes. I also grew up in a religious family and always felt guilty about wanting sex from women too.

My suggestion for you is to first find a new group of male friends which can act as your wings. The idea of PUAs is not to solely sarge the women in your vicinity, but to actively search them out in you life. A new group of pro-active friends will pull you into a world of endless prospects. It will also allow you to experience the many other aspects of the world, other than church and school. Basically, you need friends who party and go out where non-religious women are. If you go with partying friends you will not be as overwhelmed as you would be if you tried to go to parties alone or with your other religious friends. Women won’t come to you, you must go to them!

P.S. Before you attempt to make friends with people who party, you must learn to mimic them. People who party aren’t friends with people who always are responsible or up tight. I suggest you learn to like the music they like, learn to dress like them, and most importantly learn to hold up a conversation with them about things they like to talk about. Religious guys usually have a certain style of dress, music, and speech that does not comply with modern culture. When in Rome, you must do as the Romans.

Every PUA is entitled to there own religious beliefs. PUA and religion can co-exist as long as one allows for sex. Granted many conservative churches take it way too far, but not all PUAs need to denounce their religion. Neil Strauss studies Huna, which although is not a bonefide religion, certainly has religious undertones and is actually based on a Hawaiian religion.

I think some will use PUA skills for good or bad its your choice ot make the right path for you, you can become good at attracting a certain kind of women or at GIRLS

You're stuck between what THEY tell you is right or wrong or and what YOU feel is right or wrong.

Unless you figure out that you have some balls and make a man of yourself, you'll always be a eunuch.

By the way, Jesus was the baddest PUA of his time with all his magic, healing, and water walking routines. Men only stuck around him because they wanted to be him. Women wanted to fuck him. . . . only the HB10's ever got to suck on the Godly Rod. Unfortunately, a bunch of gutless wonders left the fun shit out of their text merely for political gain. Ever read the old text? Damn, now that's some fine reading if you want to learn some good old fashion PUA routines.