sorry about the whole paragraph thing here I'll break it down

1st report
So I'm in the middle of reading the Game and Venusian Arts and have been out in the field once. It was a bar and I managed to get a waitress's number. We're gonna hang out and go shopping (since I did the shirt size opener) for a friend's birthday. On the first day should I have her meet me or should I pick her up? Another question is what's a good way to initiate and escalate kino without looking like some horndog? I want to at least kiss close by the end. I think that's one of my sticking points.

2nd report
Just earlier today I was in my lab (University of Utah) determined to get a particularly blonde's number. It would be good timing since a friend of mine is throwing a birthday party this weekend (above) and this would be the last time I see the blonde in class this week.

The thing is, over the past 2 weeks she's been giving me IOI's like body position and grazing her arm over mine multiple times when working with lab equipment. I've been wanting to make a move to get her number but I'm hesitant about other people (about 10 others) looking at me as if I'm hitting on her. So today I was determined to isolate her somehow. It was damn near impossible.

When I started doing some homework she automatically came up next to me to start working on hers. Keep in mind this was an open area where everyone was around. So we joked and kid around and I negged her a bit. This other guy that obviously likes her took it as threatening, he turned on his game. And started teasing her like no other and even started to straddle her a little bit (they knew each other from before).

I couldn't tell if she was annoyed by him cuz she kinda played along but I have a good intuition that she's NOT interested. In no time 2 more guys came around the "homework circle." One started to mess and tease her with her cellphone and the other started to help her with the homework.I gauged her by throwing in witty, negging remarks at the most optimal times but stayed cool to not seem too eager. She responded positively to those negs.

At one point though the main CB literally picked up a chair and sat between me and her. A little bit later on he literally just right out asked for her number. I didn't know what to do here so the only chance was to wait for her to leave at the end of class. Near the end of class the main CB left 5 minutes before (Luck #1).

The other two guys though were still around, I know they were probably planning the same thing. All four of us started to walk out the building, she was carrying empty pizza boxes and one of the guys held her back to "help her throw away those pizza boxes." I didn't want to seem like some sucker so I kept walking with the other guy. We were about 25 paces ahead of them. Thankfully it was a windy day and I was holding some papers I had printed out while waiting for her to leave class. About 5 steps outside I let loose those papers and chased after them to buy some time (Luck #2).

They eventaully caught up and she was mentioning she had to go to a pharmacy technician class. I had taken that same class (Luck #3) and I started to dominate the conversation.

The other 2 guys still followed but I was determined to walk with her as long as possible at least until she was alone. The other 2 guys seeing how the dialog evolved just between the two of us finally separted (Luck #4).

As she neared her car I asked for her number, she seemed eager, and told me to call her to get my number. But I still needed a connection to ask her to the birthday party. As I called her I did the shirt size opener. "I need to shop for a friend's birthday and I want to get her a joke shirt, etc etc." And as she was explaining it to me she said "hold on" and SHE ACTUALLY answered her phone! I said "that's me."

She was a little embarrassed and I could sense a little bit of tension from her, this boosted my confidence a little. Then I said "Oh yea BTW that friend of mine is throwing a party this friday would you like to go?" She then said she had to do some family things over the weekend, but said we should get together on Monday to study for an upcoming exam. "Alright I'll call you" I said.

If you've noticed I put up those Luck points. How would I get about those 4 situations if I didn't get "lucky?" Also do you think she's lying about the whole family thing over the weekend? Is she throwing an ASD or I'm assuming I had messed up somewhere along the lines? And finally I don't know much about "study game" but what would be a good game plan for monday? I don't want to come off as some study partner schmuck, I want her to know my interest beyond the scope of this study session.

tip numer 1. b
LEARN TO FUCKING WRITE IN PARAGRAPHS!!!!!

I cant be bothered reading long fucking stories like that - so if someone else can - they can help you out.. you lost me after the above quote. Maybe someone could para-phrase it for me.

tip 2.
pick her up and a) take her to somewhere near your place - or b) get her to meet her at your place and go somewhere near that.

why near your place? this allows you to show your value by taking her to a cool place where people may know you (social proof) and you know the ins and outs. secondly - if the nights a success its 'come on in - you have got to see my .........dog / movie etc (dont say cock!)

emabarressed people will see you hitting on her!! imagine how they will be when she gives you her number and says 'yeah - sometimes i feel like i just need a break and a drink after work as well, sounds good' (read between the lines for your opener).

youl be a king (not 'the king' - thats me)

hope it helps

I'll paraphrase it:

1. I need tips on kino initiation and escalation for the waitress

2. Got the blonde's number, seemed to have reached hookpoint, but backed out on the party. She agreed to get to together on monday to study. Need a gameplan for monday.

The main problem I see is that you weren't the first to ask for her phone number. You gota be the leader, the center of attention, the first to ask. Asking second kind of makes you look like a follower jumping on the bandwagon.

Ah well. Maybe hes a dick head anyway.

For study I don't know. I have fclosed study dates before, and then gone to the same class with her the next morning. I honestly can't remember what I did and said because back then I wasn't aware of my actions, I just got lucky.

I do remember being very laid back and I didn't really care if we hooked up. I let her come to me for everything, if she needed to look at my notes she had to come look over my shoulder. I threw negs at her in a teasing way, but I was quick to build her back up.

At some point she said I looked stressed and that I couldn't fully focus on studying without being calm. She offered to give me a back rub. Now that I think of it, perhaps SHE seduced ME? Cool.

so I text her to study, but no reply... Guess it's time for some damage control. I'm thinking of ignoring her while displaying lots of charisma and confidence with high energy. All in lab.

Any suggestions?