damn, the story with this girl is just so long.. sorry about the big post

I met her thru friends... a friend of mine was going to hit on her, but she was having a silly affair and he just gave up the very moment
so as she is friends with some friends of our, after we were introduced I ended 'getting lucky' and starting meeting her everywhere I'd go, I played the "stop stalking me" and she played the same

then she found me on orkut, gave me her MSN and for sometime she just looked really interested

as she was still on this affair I was kinda cool with it...

so we started the talks and everything, but ended up not meeting each other a lot, I always negged her playfully, and as she would respond playfully, teasing or firing back I tought it wasnt an issue

I figured I'd leave my caring moments for when we could have sometime isolated so that it'd be a checkmate + anti-LJBFZ
but it didnt happened cause when I (rarelly) met her there was always too many friends

we keep contact, I invite her to lunch with me and she accepts, but it also didnt happened cause her drivers license hadnt arived(I dont have one also..)

so as I was talking to her I tought we were fine to meet and get to know better and all that stuff, but she colds suddenly...

I was about to just forget, so I sent her a testimonial on orkut to 'open the game'

"so if you wanna know the truth, I love your personality and I think youre real hot and pretty
I dont get you, I dont know if you get insecure when I play with you or if you're just avoiding me
we were gonna lunch together and all of a suddem you're cold this way...cmon, I really like you, say whats your game already cause Im getting tired of this"

she awnsered complaining that sometimes my negs are of a bad taste, said the she dont understand me either, that she was cool and I was being neurotic, asked what did I mean with the question about her game
sent kisses and said she adores me(in the "likes very much" sense, its very commonly used here in Brasil)
then sent another saying she wasnt avoiding me


this shit has been taking so long I only want to keep it if I finnaly get to start something more here, and fast

so, would it be LJBF? how should I make up for it? I havent replied to her yet..

I believe I was pretty clear about my intentions on my msg, she answered kindly still...well, this is already too long, whats your opnion guys?

damn Im almost losing my sleep over this =P
help plz

Dude just move on to the next one, absolutely NO girl out there is worth losing sleep over.

I agree on moving on. Keep her as a friend if you want, but you basically kill any chance of winning her over. I say chalk this one up as not to neg all the dam time and learn to neg better when you do neg. As those two things basically did it in for you.

It's pretty common for guys to try out negs and go horribly horribly wrong with them (yes, I'm guilty as charged my friends...). I make the distinction between negging and teasing. I hardly ever use negs (only as a response for real bad behavior), and the right response to teasing is laughter. If that's not what you're getting, you're doing it wrong.

Althought your girl seemed a little upset (here come the good news!) - it's not the end of the world and it is recoverable.

However, I strongly recommend you game other women and keep your options open - the least attractive thing to this girl right now will be you coming from a frame where she is your only option - and trust me, she'll smell it a mile away.

If this is a social circle type of game, I recommend Juggler's style - lead, relate, reward and escalate. See how she responds to an SOI (wow, I just realized, not only are you sexy, you're also fun to talk to/some other less generic quality you noticed about her). If she laughs, you're in.

On a more serious note, ease up on the negs and C&F - notice how Mystery advocates a maximum of 3 negs (excluding playful banter) for supermodels and David De warns about using C&F too much.

Hope this helps!

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On we plough.

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You pretty much cried to this girl begging her to like you she's in total control and she knows it move on

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Yeah i have to agree with some of the dudes here....forget her. You allowed her to control your emotions(which is hard to help) but what you CAN help is whether or not you let the external world know about it. You practically did tell her that she has control in wanting to know "what game she's playing" ...it should be the other way around completely. If she acts cold towards you, act cold towards her. One of the best advice that i'm currently implementing is "you have to be willing to lose the girl". It may suck when you feel you have a great catch and you don't want to lose it, by actively pursuing that catch from a place of vulnerability...you're still going to lose her and probably ruin your image in her eyes which is pretty unrecoverable.

Yup this is exactly what I thought, by stating all that you just showed how needy you are and how badly you want her. Time to let go.

hmm, ok, Im kinda going a little afc over her
not that Im having oneitis, just that I dont have the disposition of gaming her, so I might just have an open game, try to call her someday.. if she's not up I will forget her
I move on really easily