I have recently entered the PUA lifestyle, but my wingman has not. My wingman is my cousin and he doesn’t believe in what other PUA’s teach because he is a natural. I must give him credit though because he has slept with literally hundreds of women, which is why I want him to be my wing (or really me his). I feel I have a lot to learn from him, but I also get the sense he has a lot to learn from me because I have studied every PUA book I could get my hands on. My only real problem is that when we try to sarge together we always bump heads because we are both alpha males trying to take over a group.

His technique is unique because he invented it himself and doesn’t even know what it is, it just comes out of him when he needs it. He basically flirts with every girl in a group (including a lot of kino), sees which ones give him the most IOIs, then at the last minute focuses all his attention on her, adds extra kino, and F-closes. He is very outgoing and naturally funny, so this almost always works for him. He is also very conceited so he is constantly talking about himself (DHV). Plus he always tries to act like a leader and have guys follow him (which flips women’s leader of men switch).

My problem is that he flirts with every girl in a group, which leaves none left for me. No matter how good my technique is, by the time I try to use it, all the girls are mesmerized by him. He doesn’t even pick a girl until the end, so all the girls believe they have a chance to be with him.

I know he’s a bad choice for a wingman and most of you are going to suggest I find a new one, but I could still learn a lot from him and I think I will eventually convert him into a PUA. I’ve considered sarging with him, but in two separate packs. Him with his wings, and me with mine. If you guys have any ideas, I’d love to hear them.

Okay, so it's doubtful you are going to change him. You basically have 3 options man. 1. You can live with the way it is now. 2. You can talk to him about winging for you, and letting you get the girl some. (You'll need to educate him some) 3. You can find a new wing. There may be some other variation of #2 but that's pretty much it man.

Let me get this straight if you open the set, it's your set, and he comes in he'll flirt with all of them and it gets tough for you to run it. I can easily see how that is going to be a problem. As I mentioned before you'll either have to educate him on some wing edicate so he doesn't hijack your set, or you'll need to not work with him.

This is about you going out and getting good with women, while meeting women that you like. If you go out there and anything gets in the way of reaching that goal then you don't need it. It's cruel and sucks but its very simply the way it is.

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I totally agree with everything you said, but the problem is that he is my cousin. If any other wing had gotten in my way the way he has, I would have out dhv-ed him and subtlely taken the group away from him. But he is my cousin and he is very sensitive when it comes to women. I think I just need to find a new wing because I don't want to lose my cousin's friendship over power struggles.
I have talked to him about the problem, but when he is around women he turns into an illogical horndog and he doesn't care about anything or anyone else. (I guess I should have learned that lesson from him and turned it around on him to show him how it feels.)

Thanks for the advice JSmooth.

From what you have said, you are not going to change him.

Best course of action is two do 2 things. Go out with him intending to not get the girl, instead act as a wing and study his "game". try to work out the concepts behind what works for him.

After this adaptation is complete, go out with him again, instead though, when he opens a set move to an adjacent set nearby (if he is as funny as you said you'll have social proof from being around him) and then game the new set.
If your good enough you may eventually humble him with your game, if not, try some of his material and see what results you get. Its all just a learning experience anyway.

But above all remember, a wing dosent have to be the best PUA in the world, just a faithful one.

That's pretty much what I've been doing. It sucks though, because I know that I know more than him, and could use it if he wasn't there. But he thinks I'm not good with women, because he doesn't realize he's blocking me (or more like he doesn't want to believe it). I could outshine him now if I wanted to, but he is sensitive and would take it as an act of aggression and we would just amog back and forth till the group hated one of us (most likely him). Also, I don’t want to fight with my cousin and it would hurt me more than him, to amog him in public.