I met this chic around 2 months ago...
didnt use any techniques except describe to her an ex that was older than me...so i think that displayed value.
things happened..conversation was always bland..but we never fought..
gave me head a few times and we had sex once...
then a few days ago she said she needed a break..pressure of work ..whatever..
and now we officially broke up..she cited that it wasnt me it was her and that she wants to be alone for a while...which i could understand but we only saw each other 2-3 times a week and we only ever watched dvds or made out ect..
my query is that im a really funny guy and people describe me as a "natural" pick up artist..cept with this girl - coz we were really different i guess - i never allowed my true personallity to show..
1 coz i never felt comfortable
and 2 coz i never needed to i guess....
anyway...just airing and wondering what people thought on the possibility of picking her up in the future, as the prospect of laying her just casually or whatever.


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Yeah its very possible but it all plays into what you did or what happend the first time stuff went down the shitter, if you cheated or betrayed her in anyway..your pretty much still on her bad side, but fuck it let me give you some tips.

Anyway lets say the first time you were together with her it all ended a month after you first hooked up and you beeing the prick that you are never showed any regrets to it ending, wow you manged to do something very important here, confusing her..why did'nt you care, was she that unimportant, is she that bad looking, even if a girl is a HB10 they have something us guys will never have, shitty selfconfidence, dont let them make you ever ever think something else.

Simple example, This chick I wanted to f-close cut her hair the other day she had a nice new hair cut which really did do wonders to her looks, do I tell her this, NO FUCKING WAY, I tell her the other way around, not by beeing mean, just beeing 'honest' I told her; I liked your old hairstyle more, hahaha, a day passed and she was trying to back to her old looks, mhm wonders.

so what do you do, play with her mind, pull her down, but dont you fucking be mean, make her abide, slowly and safly, then fuck her and bail

So by simply pointing out her flaws, you confuse her and make yourself look as a far away target.

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Yeh im not sure if thats the case here..
she's a good looking girl but i barely complimented her..
Part of the problem is she kept hearing "rumours" that I was sleazing over other girls...not that I was tho I dont have the best reputation in our circle of friends from past endevours...this probly helped me get her in the first place..
but yeah I think she heard it a lot that I was doing this maybe and eventually pissed her off?..not sure
She's the one that pressed for us to label ourselves "in a relationship"
now she tells me that she wants to ba alone for a while coz she was in a 3 year relationship that ended a year ago...blah blah blah
obviously i dont buy it and yeah I know one-itis is a problem and I've suffered it before with other girls so I know I will get over it but I just looking for light in the end of the tunnell regarding trying to pick up girls in the future that youve already been with...
id say its definately harder than sarging girls that dont know you..
what are some tactics i should use if i see her out in the future and want to f-close?...like do i tell her ive been with heaps of girls, or not...
any ideas?

As for new tactics in an effort to f-close the next time you see her, these tactics better be implemented way into the future. There must be an allowance for you to be able to change your persona completely. Obviously you did not have the persona she wanted at the time, but now the agenda is different. Its more like payback (correct me if i am wrong). Change your look, your attitude, and even the way you talk. When she sees you next time make it so that she is interested form the minute she looks at you. When she begins to ask questions pertaining to your evolution, NEVER give her a straight answer. Keep her guessing and it should be an easy f-close.



P.S. If you really want to feel good about the f-close, get up in the morning and give her the finger and walk out. Never talk to her again. That is what I would do.

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these are really good suggestions thanks alot...
while i was with her i had a constant struggle in my own head of what she was even doing with me?...
we are both not each others types, and shes definately one of the hottest girls ive dated..
as a result i never opened up to her ..i never felt comfortable...
i think there was physical chemistry between us just no emotional chemistry so this is why i think i shouldve worked harder to make a connection...
on the "jealousy" thing...i think it may be possible that she ended it coz she kept hearing that id sleazed over other girls...and she knows other girls that ive been with...so i dont think making her jealous is an issue...
we have been chatting all week briefly...just small talk bout what we've been up to ect...and i invited her to come to a football match with me ect.

im always upbeat when i talk to her...never try and sound depressed and stuff..like always tell her im going out ect...i think this is important...

now ive been talking with my friends about this....FRIEND ZONE...
if u remain friends with a chic youve f-closed...does that ensure you will never be in the friend zone??

cool i know im waffling on but any opinions about any issues would be nice

First off, why in the world would you want to be friends with someone you have f-closed? Second off, why the hell are you even thinking of the friend zone? From my personal experience, I have hated the friend zone and I stay out of it. I always tend to make a relationship with an HB totally open ended and easy for her to pick back up when she wants or when I want. Which I never really want to either, but enough about me. What you should push for if she is thinking about the friends crap is a little line that is to the tone of "think of me as your secret emergency jet pack that you pull out when you really need someone to count on....not just for the little things." Then seal that statement with an eyebrow raise with a wide smile or a wink with a grin. this will give her an oopen ended aspect that she will not be sure of until she wants to be sure of it. But if you really like that friends thing, then by all means go ahead. But the ending to the movie "Just Friends" is completely fictional.

I can't agree with Reddro's jealousy plotline, but his use of a pivot is a great idea. I know I am missing something here with the whole friends crap, so if anyone has an idea to give newport, then please either add to mine or some up with something better.

I'm new to PUA as you guys know it. I am in a situation close to yours but I know what to do and it is working. The bad/good part is she is my roommate. We was together for a bit. Then just a week ago she told me she was seeing some other guy. Didn't really bother me because I was seeing many other people. However, I like to own what I have taken. (yea yeah yeah call me a sick prick but that is me) So to know I can't have her when I want to.. that I can't just walk to her room and get some really pisses me off. So here is what I did. I created a new persona in front of her. I started taking interest in things she never thought I had an interest in and I changed my hair from brown with blond highlights to jet black. I also changed the way I act around her. I no longer act like I care about her. Well, I don't hang on her every move like she would want me to. Sometimes when she talks to me I act like I don't hear her. Just put a few negs in. Also I talk to other girls on the phone while she is in the room and I just laugh and talk about things in a cryptic way that the person on the phone knows what I am talking about but open ended enough that her jeallousy will make her jump to conclusions.

So, first change your persona to something she is not used to. This will confuse and mesmerize her. It will make her see that she doesn't know everything about you. Never let a girl think she knows everything about you. Unless it is part of a game you are playing on her.

Second, stop hanging so much on her. If she fells that she can have you anytime she wants then she feels like she is more powerful than you and it makes her loose interest. So. Be short with her. Don't look at her like you normally do. Don't give her any tell tell signs of affection (at least not at this stage) In short keep a poker face.

Lastly, make her jealous. Women are so freaking competitive. Have other females around you (even if they are just friends). Talk to your guy friends about some other girl while she is around. Anything, to make her see the she isn't the only thing you want and that other woman want you. Be careful to not over do this part though because if you over do it say... bang one of her closest friends... well you will never have a chance!

That is my call on it. That is what I am doing to my roommate right now. I have been getting some response from it. However as it was said in a earlier reply. It is much harder then sarging a complete stranger.

Like I said I am new to the forum and to PUA, but that is what I would do. I would like some feed back if you guys agree or disagree with my method in that situation.

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