Girls do back-turns to guys all the time, as IODs. If you create attraction, and then do a back-turn, does that demonstrate a willingness to walk away? Or is that just considered a neg? The reason I'm asking, is because one of their attraction switches is flipped when the man demonstrates a willingness to walk away.

I cant believe im telling someone on one of these fourms this but you are genuinely thinking too hard!

besides a neg is with words.

if this one little aspect of your game is screwing you up, your doing everything wrong. and I mean EVERYTHING!

It's not messing up my game, because I haven't even started gaming yet. I'm just curious about some of these things. I've been doing a lot of reading, including re-reading Mystery's book. Just trying to get as much information as possible, before I actually do go out gaming.

Its depends on your frame and the context you do it in. If you do it childishly, as a direct reaction to something she said/did then it will come off that you were insulted or angered, which is bad. However, if you do it in such a way that you maintain your cool frame you're fine.An example would be the old staple push/pull technique (albeit overly-simplified) in which the PUA is in conversation with his target and turns his back saying "I can't even talk to you anymore" in response to something she said she does/likes/doesn't do/ dislikes/ etc. I've used this plenty-a-time, usually in response to the same thing (It seems like I'm the only person around that actually likes The Darkness). So for example, I'm talking with a target about music and ask her if she likes The Darkness or not. The usual response ranges anywhere from "No" to "I Fucking Hate Them" and I just say "What? I can't talk to you anymore..." and turn away/to someone else.

The best thing to do is put the books down and go out and talk to people. To me it sounds like you are using this "studying" thing as an excuse not to go out and sarg. You said it yourself, you are RE-READING PUA books? Once is enough bro.

I don't know if you saw the most recent Indiana Jones movie, but there is a part where he is flying through the library on a motorcycle and he says something along the lines of "If you want to learn stuff, get out of the library."

Get out of the library and meet women. The poster above me basically sums up my feelings about your topic though. Use the back turn in a playful manor and you will be fine.

It gives the girl FEAR OF LOSS.

It's all very well her feeling good around you, but when you take it away and she has the fear of loss that will be 100x more effective.

It's also known as fractionation sometimes.

So you're on the right track, keep doing it.

Max