Hello! Thanks for reading the post following, any help is appreciated!

Well, I was involved in a Swedish community not long ago, and posted a post about getting to know new people, and this girl added me. Lets call her HB, as usual. HB and me chatted via MSN for a long time before meeting, though not meeting as in date. It was a get-togeather for the community, ~9 people arrived.

Anyhow, I've been chatting with her and meeting her since. She recently got dumped by a fucktarded-guy (they were togather for a week.. and she was in love...). Now, I'm the guy she borrows a shoulder from. I'm the one who cares about her etc etc, which imo is an IOI since we've not known eachoter for too long. She's a shy kind of girl, and is a bit.. "emo", however, she has nothing against kino with me.

Yesterday I began doing some bantering just to build more attraction.
Me: Hey, HB, imagine that we got togeather, married and got children, wouldent they be awesome children? [we're 16 years old ffs, it's out of the qustion, only banter here..]
She took the bait and we had a fun conversation about it. However, ~15 minutes later into the interaction she began talking about this marriage again. She was planning our wedding etc. Sure, this could be only banter, and no IOI, but she said "Yeah, but you'll have to break up with your girlfriend first..." [I'm currently in a relatonship]. Now, if you are bantering you could accept non-real things, which I tried to get her to accept. Like "I can love you both" etc. But since she was so into this whole marriage-thing and wanted to keep things serious I suspect this was an IOI.

Or am I mistaken? Does girls usually banter with this stuff w/o having any attraction?

Another IOI, which I only get from attracted girls are "*Hug*","<3" content in texts and MSN. She doesn't mind me saying it, and she uses it as well.

Now, I ask you; do you think she likes me? Is she attracted? Whether she is, or not, do you know how I can proceed? I want to amplify her attraction for me, while not breaking up with my current GF. Also, is there any routines for making a girl 'accept' MLTRs? Or do I have to choose when the time comes?

Thanks! Any help is help, and I owe you for that help.
/Facher

P.S. don't tell me to DHV and do kino.. I know that stuff. I'm more looking for ways to do this, if you get my point. If not, just go ahead and give me whatever help you can, and I'll use it if I can =).

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In my experience, women -especially young ones- usually speak about these things of getting married and with children and a nice white fence... That's because they don't see these things as real things that can happen soon.

So I don't really think she was IOIing you. I'd try this -just imagining it right now:

PUA- If we got married, would you cheat me?
HB- (Whatever)
PUA- Well, I would do, if I found a girl interesting... I mean, more than you.
HB- Hey! I'm interesting!, blahblahblah

I think you probably have enough IOIs, you've been chatting for too long though and now you're her shoulder to cry on so I think you're in danger of getting LJBF'd.

Only you cn tell us if you have the IOIs, forget the marriage conversation, what does her body language say, does she kino you back? does she look in your eyes?

If so you need to escalate it and SOI., If not you haven't built enough attraction.

When considering MLTRs you don't ask the girl first, if she knows you have a gf and she still lets you close her then she has consented, simple as that, but of course, your LTR hasn;t consented so might be time to have a think what you want.

Thanks! Both of you guys.

First of all, what does SOI mean in the art of pick-up? Tried to look it up, but failed.

Well, I have positive body language, she always looks me in the eyes and she's always happy in my presence. We can talk about whatever and she's not bored. I can do almost any kino to her with positive feedback.

But, I think I'll just have to push it further. Escalate. If I "fail" I don't really care since I have my GF^^.

What did SOI mean? Thanks!

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Ok guys, need your help on this.
I meet a girl almos 2 weeks ago, and k-closed on the first day.
Since then I have been out with her a couple of times ( and she always brought along a friend, so had to bring my one as well) and havent
Managed any progress. Now I am feeling, that I might be falling into the "friend" category, which is not my main aim:) what do I do.
Many thanks.

SOI is statement of intent, or statement of interest. Remember that she is lucky to have your attention and since you are confident you don't have to give a fuck if she isn;t interested - her loss. The SOI reinforces that you have confidence and also can escalate or at least her response lets you know where you stand.

ounds like she's into you - good luck man - be bold.

Naughty by nature - You need to ask yourself the same question - are you getting IOIs and good body language from her - if so escalate (SOI/Kino etc) and if not she's not attracted enough and you need to DHV, maybe neg, build comfort etc - or just throw it away if you don't get a good response.

The fact that you've seen her a couple times and not excalated properly is not really a good sign IMO - means you need to do something quickly or you are LJBFd.

These are my views anyway - but I'm amateur so take with a pinch of salt - good luck.

Having a friend with means she's not comfortable alone with you. What about inviting her, and only her, to a movie-night? Ask her to bring a couple of really bad movies, like "Snakes on a plane" or "Dead meat" [wannabe zombie movie.. fucking awesome =D].

If she denies, i.e. want to bring a friend, you do not have enough comfort. This is both good and bad; you are not a friend yet.. but you still don't have enough trust to go on.

If she complies you can go kino, do some DHV etc. Also, kissing is allowed within the safety of your home. You may have deeper conversations. Reminds me of a grat thing an author to a forbitten NLP-pattern said....

If you only link yourself to pleasure you will only become a friend.. or a toy... and if only linked to pain she will try to get away from you. However, by linking yourself to both pleasure AND pain you get a deeper connection.

Perhaps that's what you need? Share pain, and pleasure. Now, it IS FUCKING VITAL HERE that you do DHV AND KINO!!! I'll repeat: kino and DHV. You also need to tease. You need to be confident. It's like the game all over again. Don't ask questions, give statements, and if you do aks a question contribute after getting the reply.

1. Where you from?
-> X
2. Oh, I've been to X ...

Keeps you from being boring. Well, you got her a bit attracted.. enough for a kiss... so you're no noob.

Hope I was to any help.

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