You really got me interested, any update?

good story, hopefully its gona work out for you, wish you luck. You have to say sexual comments etc., you dont want to start doing them once you in the LJBF zone its gona be creepy.

Also you seem to know a lot about her interests, try to select a topic that you know a lot about. Teach her something and show her you are more knowledgeable than her, out smart her, out alpha her.

i suggest you have a fun day together, and then find a way to kiss her. if she's even slightly interested, she won't get mad. at that point u have a solid claim on her, and she on you, and you can deal with the boyfreind. or at worst you'll get over it and be freinds with tension, you definately won't lose her as a freind from what u wrote she doesn't seem to be that type.

That's a great field report man. If you and she have so much in common I would do what was suggested and try to date her, and dont try to run so much game you push her away.

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seems to me that each time she brings up the bf.. she is reminding Herself (not you) that she should not be having this much trust and fun with you. a good routine to bring up at this point is the 5 questions game. Bring this up after you have built some high energy convo.. make the prize be something like a kiss or some erotic funny dance. (standby a camera for further teasing).

Attraction building....done
Comfort building .... done
Kino Escalation ,,,, ??? to be done (preferably on the beach)

very nice story, not sure how much she is gaming you, if so she does a very nice job herself but no matter what she is into you (boyfriend pumping gas for her?, what a douchbag, just another poor wuss) so jump thru that window of opportunity and escalate please. gl.

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read it again and thought i had to add something, because you seem to panic that you slip into friend zone forever. please realize:
isn't that a pickup? by HER?

that is not a problem, seriously.

Well THAT is a problem. Are you serious? as a friend. fuck that.


no more DHV and stuff or you simply will come across as an asshole, please take the next step and invite her to the beach or any other place where you can escalate. beach is great because there is a lot of opportunity to play around a lil bit and switch gears. definitely would tickle her, no woman that laughs can resist a kiss. good thing is when doing it right you anchor a feeling of happiness and joy with your kiss and she will come back for more. gl.

just realized that this post is two years old. now i really would like to know how it turned out.

yeh lol. shes definetely neil strauss.

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Ok So I read all your posts.
Some notes.

Yeah. Your getting more flags than the UN. = Good for you.

Some Things I'm noticing:
Negs do work, if she's read up on them than you can come up with your own.
Neg theory is that it is to come across as neutral and disqualify yourself. If she doesn't seem to be affected, whatever your not delivering it right.
ie saying "Your such a little shit" with a smile and playful tone cancels each other out.
ie your such a little shit = threatening
Smile playful tone = positive non threatening,
Put the two together = Neutral

Secondly, if your afraid too loose her you will. With some of my friends that I help with the game I make them blow themselves out of a set so they know it doesn't matter. As what was said before there are 7 billion people on the planet, I'm sure there is another like her that may even be a 10.


I'm noticing your jumping around a lot in your Attraction, Qualification etc...
Generally what I would do is Evolution Phase Shift Close.

PM me if you don't know it, its from Style and it always works in my experience, do it after qualification or A3 if you follow the MM.

Boyfriend: Boyfriend destroyer, I half to correct one of the posts. the Basic idea is that if I were to say "that shirt your wearing makes you look like micheael phelps in drag" you'd get defensive right?

if I were to say "yo that shirt is awesome" and continue, you'd downplay that.

The idea is she will break up with him by bringing up problems.
For example: I had a girl say IHAB, so I said "oh cool, I got one too but mine is way cuter" than moved on.
She then later on said "he never comes out with me, he is so lazy" I responded with "naw I'm sure he's out working a second job so he can buy you a nice diamond ring" and to which she replied "he never gets me nice things" and so on and so forth.
After two weeks of that she broke up with him.

It works and you don't look like a douche when you do it.

Tell her that he is shit, she'll get defensive. For more on this matter check out:
http://www.theattractionforums.com/misc ... ng-td.html

Banter:
Banter with her. Take some improv classes and you can out alpha her and create attraction.

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I'm noticing inner game problems, you come across as needy, while your not actively doing this I think your subtext is that and she's noticing it. WOmen are 100 times more perceptive than men.
I suggest not giving a shit and just go with the flow. Realize that you can use her as a pivot to get a HB22 or something ridiculous later if this doesn't pan out.


Do Hypnotica's Collection of confidence DVD's and Ultimate Inner game. I've done it and my game has improved 100% since I've started. This is because I actually AM the alpha male of my group and I'm well grounded. Which means I'm never afraid of loosing a girl and I'm confident.

Anyway, Those are my two cents. Hope this helps

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My best guess is while she seems happy with the BF he seems more like the following type. If this girl is an alpha she has had men do what she asks (Like pump her gas) all her life. You need to stand out and not be that lost puppy like you were. Show her you are interested but not another sheep to follow her around.

I also agree it's time to escalate kino.

keep us up to date.

Even though this is an old topic, this is a GREAT EXAMPLE when to go for a girl who already has boyfriend. You guys had so much in common, she was giving you IOIs and I don't think she was very happy with him. If she was happy with him, she wouldn't be around with you much and giving you signs, IOIs.

If this happens to you, just go for a kiss and see what happens. Pretend like you tripped on something and go for the kiss. Anyway, I don't think she'll smack since she is very comfortable around you and have given you IOIs.

I wouldn't normally go after a girl with a boyfriend. Why? Because of karma- what you will do will come and bite you OR what comes around goes around. I used to love taking my friends or cousins girlfriends just for fun or just see if I got game-- that was when I was in my teens. Now, I'm 23 and I think you shouldn't base your game on whether you can steal girls from their boyfriend. Yes, there are some exemptions.

She has some really really deep inner game. I think that her wanting to become a psychologist has helped her alot with this. & maybe she's a female pua. Who knows? She reversed all your negs on you and was playing hard to get even though she gave you multiple iois. Good luck man a girl like that I think would be hard to keep. Study some psychology and how the human mind thinks I think that should help you out a alot. Im gonna start too.