Drunk girl, do I even contact her again?



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:37 am 
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Hi,

I'm currently in a country where I don't speak the native language (french), and the local population is horrible with English. I'm getting along better each day getting to know people through my co-workers, but it's still a tad hard to actually go out and get to know people.

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Had a drink with some co-workers lately, met a girl, had some nice rapport, got a few IOIs, got her e-mail address, had a good chance for a day 2, but then she got too drunk, appeared to have left, only to find her sitting somewhere in a corner vommiting later. Ignored her afterwards, while some AFC stays with her. When we're about to leave and she's standing again I give her some more attention and ask if she'll be ok. She says she'll be fine, and at this point all IOIs had stopped (prolly because she felt miserable), and I decide to just leave for home and leave her with her two ex-co-workers.

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Two days ago we had a drink with a few co-workers and a girl that used to work at the company. Every other guy was practically drooling over her, so I figured there was no need to upset everyone at a company I've only worked 3 days and basically just spent my time talking with what is pretty much the alpha-male at the company. Later on when a lot of other guys leave, she comes sit next to me, and I chat her up a little, using the "new in town" thing as an opener, asking her to point me to some nice places to go where I might meet some more english or foreign people. She starts writing on a tiny piece of paper, but runs out of place, so I gave her my phone (which is a pretty flashy expensive touch-screen one, dhv?). I leave her to play with it for a while (amazing to see how quickly she picked up how to type with it), and at the end "Do you visit those places yourself too? How about you jot down your e-mail address too so we can meet up there sometime". Figured e-mail address would be a good one, phone numbers are too damned expensive as I still have a dutch carrier ;) Anyway, got her e-mail address, demonstrated loads of non-neediness, dress way better than average compared to the other co-workers, the alpha-male guy sees me as equal (can't really overtake him, he's my boss), figured I did a pretty good job at sparking some attraction, even though I initially didn't really plan to do anything more than just get some new friends.
So anyway, one of the fellow developers intends to leave, and tries to get the girl to leave with him. Quite funny to see that instead she opts to just keep chatting with me ;) Even though it was quite clear the guy intended to leave, he's now staying, pretty AFC if you ask me :p
At the end of the night, only me, the other alpha-guy, the AFC, and her stay. The AFC is trying to feed her drunk, and trying to get her attention, but she's chatting mainly with me. As she's getting pretty drunk and I seemed to take the alcohol pretty well that night, she gives some of the shots the AFC guy gives her my way :p
Outside when everyone's having a smoke the AFC guy takes her hand quite forcefully and holds it, while she's signalling him to let go and signalling me to help out. I didn't actually get him to let go (and I didn't intend to start a fight with a co-worker), but I did get him to take about two steps away and get myself somewhat inbetween them two.
At this point I'm not sure if she's actually interested or just using me to get rid of the AFC, but hey, I'm having a good time, so I keep chatting. We chat about french movies and how I've never seen one, and at this point I see a great entrance for a day 2, and figured I'd tell her something like "Know what? I'm free on saturday, if you're free I'll let you take me to one". Unfortunately she excuses herself before I get to it, and I don't see her for like an hour. Later on I see her sitting in a corner, having vomitted, and figured I'd just leave her there and have a good time. My inner-AFC was pretty much begging me to go over and help, but I figured that it's not my fault she's had too much to drink. Hang out with the alpha guy, chat up the girls behind the bar (one's pretty nice, the other insists that she doesn't speak English in her current condition ;)). The AFC guy does indeed go there, and stays there for like the rest of the night. At 2 AM we're asked to leave as they're closing, and at this point the three of us help her to get up, and leave. I ask if she's ok, hoping to get another shot at conversation, but she's obviously feeling terribly, and simply says "I just need a cab". I point her to several I see standing in the neighbourhood waiting, and ask if she needs anything else, after which I greet the AFC and the alpha-guy and walk home.

What now?:
Basically I'm doubting whether I should even contact her again. I'm about to go try out the pubs she gave me tonight, and figure I could invite her over. However, I'm not sure I built up enough attraction and comfort, and although that night we did OK, her english is pretty bad and she might even be a tad afraid to meet me when there's noone around to translate for her if need be.

Also I feel that with the vomiting and all, is it even wise to ask her out again? I don't want to be a baby-sitter watching how much she drinks for her.

What do you guys think?


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I wouldn't get back in touch with her. If she's not adult enough to handle her drinks, she's not adult enough to handle me.

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. . . Too many of you guys are waaaaay to neg/alpha crazy.

Should have picked up her up, taken her home. Made sure she was safe. You can go back to negging, insulting, alpha-ing or whatever you think the game is all about after that.

The 4 keys to attraction as noted by Mystery:
1. Pre-selected by women (not applicable in your situation)
2. Leader of men (marginal demonstration)
3. PROTECTOR OF LOVED ONES (Failed MISERABLY)
4. Demonstrate 'regular' emotions (Also failed miserably)

ANYBODY can have a tough day of drinking. . . and you're still thinking about yourself and your reward and whether if you'll have a tough time watching her drink in the future? Why didn't you just skip this ridiculous post? You could have just typed, "The most selfish AFC of the month" on the subject box.


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EDIT: Revised my post
previously: *blah blah blah, offensive crap*
New:

Ok, seriously, I respect your opinion, but instead of putting it all offensive, how about giving some advice?

I'm not unable to feel actual emoticons, but I'm still finding the balance as to how to react to them. Sure I felt bad for her and all, but there really wasn't anything I could do apart from just letting her rest. What that other AFC was doing (constantly nagging her) wasn't exactly helping either, as she was obviously trying to get some sleep.
We definitely wouldn't have just left her, and I felt pretty bad for leaving without getting her into a cab, but she insisted that she was OK, I didn't feel like forcing my help onto her, and I was having a hard time communicating with her anyway (french people tend to speak less english when they're drunk :p). But the other two guys, who were french and knew the city, took care of her.

Anyway, back on topic, I think everyone would appreciate if you'd phrase replies like that differently, in a less offensive tone.
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. . . Too many of you guys are waaaaay to neg/alpha crazy.

Should have picked up her up, taken her home. Made sure she was safe. You can go back to negging, insulting, alpha-ing or whatever you think the game is all about after that.

The 4 keys to attraction as noted by Mystery:
1. Pre-selected by women (not applicable in your situation)
2. Leader of men (marginal demonstration)
3. PROTECTOR OF LOVED ONES (Failed MISERABLY)
4. Demonstrate 'regular' emotions (Also failed miserably)

ANYBODY can have a tough day of drinking. . . and you're still thinking about yourself and your reward and whether if you'll have a tough time watching her drink in the future? Why didn't you just skip this ridiculous post? You could have just typed, "The most selfish AFC of the month" on the subject box.


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Obviously I haven't put every little detail in that report as that would've made at least 4 pages of reading, and I don't expect anyone to do that in a regular forum. Basically I'm not a complete asshole . . .
God forbid you write 4 pages so I guess you just chose to highlight the aspects that makes you look like an asshole all in 1 page?
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But I'm not going to force my help on her if she's telling me she'll be fine with a cab, especially if it's difficult to communicate at all.
So she's too drunk to communicate but you're fine because she told you she's taking a cab. Well, I'm sure she knows that your an un-needy alpha male now! Give yourself a pat on the back. Hey, I'm glad I'm not your drinking buddy and I guess you should be glad you don't have assholes like yourself as a drinking buddy either.

My initial post was a shit test to see your reaction. . . to which you failed miserably. If you see some of my other posts, you'll see that I do this often. Even while fully knowing you dropped your game, went AFC, and completely disregarded the health of another individual, you're still trying to amog me and justify your actions? Bad, bad show . . .

Obviously, you're too thick headed to learn anything from this experience. I hope others can figure out their priorities.


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Ah ha . . . had you written that the first time around, my reply would have been completely different. Had you played your cards right, not only would you have the drunk girl all over you but the other 2 French girls competing for you with her . . . Still not too late in the game but you dropped major ball . . . not because you made the girl hate you or anything but you forced her into "shame corner" with your complete indifference.


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Pfff, not used to being shit tested here :/
Well anyway, to continue on a more friendly tone:
I actually focus on the alpha-"crap" because that's where I think I need the most work. I actually care very much about my friends, and would do anything I could to prevent them from getting hurt. But that's also where my weakness is; sometimes I get too involved, and start acting needy.
Now I'm not saying acting like I did yesterday was good, but hey, that's what practice is for, isn't it ?

So anyway, I did in fact mail her today, but haven't heard back. Guess she's probably a bit embarassed :/

Speaking of which, how did I force her into the shame corner? I didn't say anything about the vomiting, and when we left I simply asked if she was ok, in a slightly concerned tone, not a condescending one :/


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. . . Too many of you guys are waaaaay to neg/alpha crazy.

Should have picked up her up, taken her home. Made sure she was safe. You can go back to negging, insulting, alpha-ing or whatever you think the game is all about after that.

The 4 keys to attraction as noted by Mystery:
1. Pre-selected by women (not applicable in your situation)
2. Leader of men (marginal demonstration)
3. PROTECTOR OF LOVED ONES (Failed MISERABLY)
4. Demonstrate 'regular' emotions (Also failed miserably)

ANYBODY can have a tough day of drinking. . . and you're still thinking about yourself and your reward and whether if you'll have a tough time watching her drink in the future? Why didn't you just skip this ridiculous post? You could have just typed, "The most selfish AFC of the month" on the subject box.
haha, awesome reply, man...


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