So I hang out the first time with HB7 (Sacrificing a bit on the looks because of killer personality.) and everything goes well. Meet up, hang out, DHV, engage in a little kino, talk a bit, drop her off, ect. Seems to go pretty well.

Hang out with her a second time. The day goes phenomenally well. She said she basically wants to take charge for the day so she takes me to all of her favorite places in the downtown. We walk the area all day and it goes incredibly well. I used a lot of push-pull, made her laugh a ton, teased, walked with arms on each other, worked kino ect. Went to the beach and laid out on the blanket and cuddled. Kept giving the "kiss me" look. I waited then eventually laid it to her.

We drive back so she can drop me off at my car. We sit in hers for a while and talk. Make out for almost an hour straight. She said she enjoyed it and it's been so long since she's done that. Gave her a huge hicky on the side of her neck (which likely could be the problem to begin with and the deciding factor.) She is pretty straight and classy so I don't know if this is what made her stop talking to me or what. I know she was a little upset over it but it shouldn't be the reason she seems to have lost interest?

I've ran out of ideas for what I could have done wrong (or possibly not done.) This isn't an isolated instance, but a proverbial problem for me. I do fairly well picking up and scoring a few dates but after 3 or 4 times hanging out they lose interest.

The only thing I can think of is that I gave in too easily to this girl and she saw herself as the victor. Can anyone shed some light on what could possibly be the problem? Ideas?

Thanks,


Slayer

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Its hard to say exactly what went wrong from that.
So i'll just what i would'nt have done, i would'nt have escalated things that far in the car, save the vampire shit for the bedroom.
For some reason i seem to be good at getting back to their place (i dont know how) just remember thats the place you need to be if any action is going to happen (you said she was classy) they're gonna feel more comfortable getting sexual there. dont be trying to hump them before you get in the door.
be goal orientated.

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I think ya hit the nail on the head with the hickey thing. Not a good move bro

Every time she looked at it...it is a reminder that she was slutty.

Not saying she's a slut it's just the way women's minds are wired.

Seeing that hickey reminded her that she put herself in a vulnerable position.

She is now taking charge by changing gears in reverse so she's not put in that position again by staying away from you.

She will never take responsibility for her actions....as far as she is concerned it's not her fault at all...it's yours.

Ask her out again and promise no hickey's (well maybe someplace no one can see LOL)

Tell her it can be your little secret between each other

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Did you stop talking to her or did she stop talking to you?

After the hickie, did you call her a few days later? Or, did you wait for her to call and she never did?

Dude, don't do hickies. Unless it's a joke between established friends/lovers, it's tacky.

Walking around with a big "HELLO WORLD, I'VE BEEN MAKING OUT WITH SOMEONE" on our neck for three days is not fun. I hooked up with a gentleman on my birthday last year, he gave me about 15 hickies all over my neck, and I was so disgusted by the rudeness of it all I never spoke to him again.

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She kinda stopped talking to me.

I told her a couple days later that I felt bad for giving her one. Weird since she bit me on my side and nipple. (Both leaving marks on me) Maybe it's the fact that the one I gave her wasn't in as discreet of a location.

The more I think about it the more it starts to make sense. Haven't really talked to her since. She wouldn't respond to my aim messages. Looks like I blew this one, unfortunately. I could possibly salvage this one by showing a little more class, but I'm unsure of how to do it without making myself look too AFC'ish.


Thanks Zip!


-Slayer

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I second that. Unless I know that she's just very promiscuous, I assume that a girl with a visible hickey has a boyfriend that she's really into. Why else would she let him mark his territory on her? I love sucking and biting necks, but I don't do it hard enough to leave a mark.

I like it how you only thanked Zip, even though the guy above said pretty much the same thing, and like what i said had no vaule at all.

(I did'nt mention the hickey because i thought you already said that it was one reason)

Fine, next time your on a date, have sex in cars, where i come from thats called dogging, and classy girls love that and tell all their friends thats what they get up to. People look up to people who do that.
Dogging = high vaule.

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Haha no pun intended. I was especially thankful to get the female perspective although they were all essentially the same thing.

Thanks everyone!

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