Hi all, first can I say what a great community you have here, have spent some time browsing under a different name and love it!

Can I ask a few questions? I would really appreciate any help or time any of you guys could throw my way...

First the boring stuff,, about me! I am a 38 year old bloke, about to be divorced any day. I have a small daughter whom I love. I am an Opera Singer, and was having a great life living abroad and travelling the world. Was never close sexually to my wife, but had too many other great things going on to worry about it! I loved girls, but was always the tall, overweight one with glasses and terrible clothes. Met wife when I was 20 and was pretty grateful just to have a girlfriend! Then things changed. I lost a lot of weight and worked out, got my eyes lasered and threw the specs out. Started to dress like a Hollywood star. Moved to Germany with my wife and baby. And I started to attract other girls...

(edit-want to point out that I never encouraged this and would have stayed with my wife forever happily because of my little girl whom I love and would never do anything to hurt ever!!!)

But even though I loved it, I never cheated. Then about two years ago my wife left me and moved back to the UK with my kid. I was distraught, not really cos of her as we had finished a long time ago, but because I loved my kid. So I would down my theatre life and have moved back to the UK too. I am now living in a small town in the midlands, between Leicester and Birmingham.

After me and my wife split, I found that I really did attract the most beautiful woman in the group. I was doing nothing, no flirting or gaming at all! But there I was, with the most desirable girl on my arms. Had about three girl friends in two years. One of my girl colleagues told me that I was flirting with everyone by not flirting, just being confident and smiling a lot. And talking to everyone!

But now, I am not singing apart from concerts. I don't have that powerful status in my job. I am living in my parents house until I can find a flat. I am 38, but look around 30. I am working out to try to get back the muscle tone that has gone a little wobbly. (Give me a couple of months!!!) I don't live near London, so would be gaming in Birmingham or worse-a small town!

I found Richard's Book and loved it. Am reading The Game and watching all the You Tube vids. I am also very shy, but because of the job I am able to play very confident. I guess I am kind of good looking. I think I dress okay. I am good at talking, but terrible at taking it to the seduction level. I am scared that I attracted girls because of my job, and the power that status gave me.

I'm at a corner in my life, I either go down or I live it big! I never really dated when I was younger, and even though I would live to find true love, I really just want to date and live with beautiful girls. I am only attracted to younger girls in their mid-late twenties. I guess I've been spoilt by these past girl friends. I speak two languages (German-not sexy) and can get by in Italian.

So, my question really is can a man in my position do this? Am I too old? Must I move to London? Can I attract my target demographic of girls? Are there any others like me here? I am very nervous but excited. I might turn out to be good at this, or I could be naturally terrible.

But I wanna be positive! Thanks for reading this, and any help will be lavishly thanked!!!

M

This is ridiculous of course you can do it. In fact you should do it, just to improve your self-confidence. Neil Struass the author of "The Game" is 32. If he can do it, why can't you? If you got the looks of a 30 year old (although age doesn't matter to be honest) you will be fine.

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Mr Natural I love you! Thanks mate!

I am so excited about this. I already have so much more self confidence, understand that this is an art that needs to be learnt so will be taking it slow and do the job properly. But even small things...

Just now at the gym a girl was looking at me. Normally I would always look the other way and be embarrassed. Not tonight, I just smiled back as if she were a friend I knew her already. Felt so normal. Only on the way home did I think..HEY!

Any other Midland guys out there...?

Cheers for the reply so much!

M

Dude, I'm 34 and have JUST decided to go back to square one.

You should see some of the "older" gamers in action. Many of them outdo the younger ones. I know guys in their late forties catching Twenty Somethings like it's the flu.

DOn't worry about the age. When I first came here, I even started a thread that was titled " what's the age deal here". I was disappointed that I was in the 'older' crowd. Truth is, I think that guys that are older just cringe away in the closet and wither away, give up entirely , or are in some awful marriage but too scared to walk away, so they deal with it till death..and maybe hook up once every blue moon with some random affair just to feel alive or something.

Don't think about it too much. We're all here for the same reasons. No shame dude. If you went to go take a class about Computers or Auto shop to better your life, would you really give a shit at the guys around you don't all look like you? Probably not. Well I see creating attraction as a skill like any other.

Maybe not as cool as bow hunting , "numbchuck",or computer hacking skillzzzzz, but a skill.

Cheers! Yep, it is like going back to square one. Thanks for the words.

m

Here's the catch. Most kids in their 20's have the hormones, energy, and youth to really have fun with the game. Unfortunately . . . confidence, Worldly knowledge, experience, financial power, referent power, appreciation of women, and other attributes that gives instant high value to a man doesn't really come until the 30's.

Fairness has nothing to do with it, it's just nature. Ever wonder what so many of your 20 something female friends were doing when you were in your 20's? Go out and sarge . . . you'll find out . . .