So people keep telling me that natural game is way better than memorizing lines and routines. But if you're first starting out, how do you "have" natural game without learning some lines first. How do you just go out and be natural when you dont have a clue what to say anyway? Is it a process of learning a few lines first, then later on in your progress trying to undrestand the underlying structure behind these lines, then moving to natural game eventually and creating your own lines? do you have to go through a phase of learning lines first? whats the most effecitve method for starting out?

If you are just starting out, then using lines and canned routines will deffinately help you. I consider a natural to be a person who has no problem approaching women, comfortable around women, and can communicate well with women. These naturals can do this because their inner game is tight, meaning they already possess the traits of a pua such as confidence, humor, etc. If you dont have any of those qualities in you right now, then obviously your not a natural, so you wont "have" natural game. Routines and lines are useful tools that dont just allow you to approach women, but more importantly help you become more comfortable and confident around women. I would say they will help you overcome the fear of approaching and such with women in the beginning, but as you keep using them in many sets, you will start to feel less tense with girls and ultimately, start to build your "natural" game and no longer need routines and lines to help you become successful with them. I have started off using routines and lines and even when I dont succeed, the experience I get just by approaching and talking to women using these lines have conditioned me a lot where I start to feel more "natural"(more confident, less AA etc) with them and no longer have to use too much routines. Nowadays lots of my success starts from a smile and a simple hello believe it or not lol. Using routines conditioned me around women, which resulted in me becoming more confident to a point a girl would be interested because she can sense that. Hope this helped.