sarging a true HB10, saint tropez style playboy model
(and failing horribly!!!)

I was at some VIP party where supposedly only millionaires come. Found the hottest chick, a true 10, a blond playboy model type / saint tropez golddigger type, peroxide-blond, big silicone breasts, all dressed up in louis-vuitton and nice watch with rocks etc, 30 years old. (I am the same age). She looked like she was married to some rich guy at the party or otherwise hunting for one. Did mystery method on people in her sight (entertaining people, making them love me). Not only because she would see social proof of me, but also just to warm myself up, because I felt nervous already just thinking about talking to her... After a while I bumped into some girl that knew her and she was going to introduce her to me. She actually brought the girl to me 1-on-1 in a great non-interested way (and not in a way like i requested it), while I was seated and both of them just walked towards me. Great start of course.

I thought I didn't have "approach anxiety" anymore after sarging tons of girls, but fuck.... I felt "shaky" and "goo-y", like a big puddle of slime... Fuck! she was so hot!
Before i realised i actually got up from my chair immediately and shook her hand with a big smile like a silly boy.
Fuck!! Why the hell am I getting up from my chair for her and why the hell am I feeling like a silly shaky boy all of a sudden!!
I know everything to do it right, YET I'M FUCKING UP!
So I go back to my chair fast and try to correct and to act cool. I thought of acting C&F, but she was kind of nice and laid back to me, so I decided that it would be incongruent to act C&F all of a sudden and it was best to just to start a normal conversation and qualify her right of the start as some means to get things going (and to be able to act tough at the same time):
"Hello.. *shake hand** hello... Well i see that you are a very goodlooking girl (I couldnt pretend she was not and she probably saw my honest reaction anyway, so thats why i though i'd better just "emote" this to her in words as well), but there must be something wrong with you.
Maybe its just because my ex-es fucked me up... but I always immediately wonder what's wrong when i see a goodlooking girl.. There is always something wrong... Either you are a psycho or a.... or a ... or you just broke up with your boyfriend... Whats the problem you have?
She: I just broke up with my boyfriend....
Me: Ah... OK... at least thats the best of the bad things... unless the break up is because of one or more of the other bad things
She: uhm yeah.... And you , no GF?
Me: Nope (I should have made a C&F answer, but i was too nervous to think of one and there was also no "playfulness" in the air at this point)
She: Haha. Well then there must be something wrong with you too...
Me: No way... everything is just perfect the way it is... Being a man has its advantages...
She: well i guess thats right... *looks uninterested*
She: I want to drink something.. but the service is bad here...
Me: Yeah I know... Well... they have a bar too... If you're willing to wait for the drink...
She: yeah..
(this got kind of boring, and i didnt want to lower myself even further to go to the bar to get her a drink. so i decided to throw in a routine to get things going and to comfort myself, because when i do a routine, i get back into my succesful sarging mood because i did this many times)
Me: I know a game for this... the one who loses has to get the drinks from the bar (they were free anyway, but getting them is "waiting at the bar"-work)
She: I dont like those games
Me: Yeah sure you'll like it, its fun
She: hmmm dont think so
Me: All you have to do is lie 5 times in a row and then you win.
Me: If you tell the truth 1 time, then you lose
She: i'm not playing that at all.
Me: dont be so dismissive if i say its fun, its nothing special, just silly questions.. like: whats the color of my shirt...
She: green (lie)
Me: good, you got it, now 4 more simple questions to go...
Me: Are you a girl?
She: No
Me: Oh so you are a boy.. well am i a boy as well?
She: No
Me: ooo fuck how many questions did i already ask you?
She: 3
Me: Got you!!!
She: haha ok you got me, good one
She: I'll get drinks, what do you want
Me: Wine
She: OK... *and goes off*
*pfeww now i got back into my old mode...into my routines and feel a lot better and more calmed down *
Me: *waitress comes by with empty platter*, i approach the waitress: hey what good is an empty platter, we need wine...
Waitress: I can get it for you.
Me: OK get me wine
Me at HB: Hey you silly girl, i already got us drinks, you are too slow... couldnt you use your charm on the bar man? such a powerful appearance, but no personal power?
HB: hey dont start with your silly games... *and joins me*
*some HB9 comes by and kisses me on the cheek and acts like she wants me >>>So i guess now i retained my normal value after fucking up before....and also got rid of most om me nervousness now* (BTW i won the HB9 because i sat next to the SHB10 at this time, HB9 send me a text later that she wants me)
Me: Ok maybe my first game was a bit silly, but i know another game thats more deep... With that i can guess your personality...
Her: Hell stop please....
Me: No work with me, its fun... you have imagenation right? imagine a desert... and all of a sudden you see a cube... how big is it
She: BIG
Me: OK and what color is it
She: I'm not playing anymore.
Me: Hmm you are a tough one... I'm glad i haven't been your parents, because that must have been tough... Respect for you parents.. really they must have had a tough time... how did they cope with you
She: haha...
*some fluff talk and then too much silence / a pause *
She: but i dont know how to tell you this... I dont want to hurt your feelings...I'm just talking to you to make that guy over there jealous...
Me: Well doesnt he know that i am just your big brother and you are my adopted little sister? That doesnt work to make people jealous you know...
She: haha
GUY COME UP TO US: hey man, nice suit, nicely done... (in dismissive way)
me: thanks man... (even though i know he ment wrong) *and want to ignore him and go talk to her, but just dont know what to say*
GUY: *takes over conversation*
me: *stares/ thinks of a comback for a while and then...* EJECT! *haha*

fuck, i'm so good with some really hot ones nowadays, i got so so so much better than before my pua days... but now i fucked up like i was 14 years old!!

i know its all wrong, i shouldnt care less about any girl, no matter the lookss, but why the hell did i get so emotional and fuck things up like this... how do you guys deal with that?

Hey,

First of all, I think you played a pretty tight game. But hindsight's 20/20 and you're right. I think HB10's sometimes really mess up our games because they effect us on a chemical level. I mean, you know now that you probably stuck around there way to long and you forced yourself on her with those games but that's their gift and that's their curse. I mean, can you imagine all the friggin' guys and games and lines they have to deal with all their lives?

I know those super star PUA's make it look easy but some of these hb10's really are a trick to deal with because it's a friggin' tight rope. You step out a bit and they often just turn to another guy who's in line. You amog one and there's another just waiting for a turn. You encourage hb10's with all your stories and games and whatever that worked on EVERYBODY else in the room and sometimes they just look dazed like a freshman taking a graduate course. Ha ha ha . . . it's what makes them so much fun!

Ah . . . the one thing I've noticed about the hb10's are that they are so damn used to being this shiny little glow in any gathering that they cannot handle it when their glow is challenged. So, instead of leaving the set due to an amog (You will ALWAYS get amogged if you hang out with an hb10 for a while) Or because she ditzes out, you leave on your own accord on a high note. In your case, I think this would have been directly after the 5 line game. She laughs and she goes to get a drink you say, "Oh my bad, I need to take a raincheck on that drink. My buddies are calling me over . . ." Then just leave. Yeah, a guy is going to sit in your seat and have a go at her but her eyes will scan the room every 30 seconds or so. You should be right back into a set you felt comfortable working. Take the push and pull to its physical limitations and actually leave . . . then comeback. . . she'll want you to . . .

yeah what to do when your brain chemicals are working against you...
this is when people drink alcohol (or snort cocaine) to shut up those "silly boy" feelings and look cool... but i dont want to do that, i want to naturally change myself emotionally in a way that this doesnt happen. so i become truly a man who is indifferent to and unimpressed by any girl.

how to do that?

- anchor yourself NLP style when you are super comfortable and in control and then release this anchor on yourself when you get nervous?
- approach 1000 more real HB10s?? (but i cant find 1000)

any other suggestion?

Well . . . I do this thing with my voice. I wrote about it briefly in another thread.

I agree with kasabi, you need to push/pull. Always use some time constraint because the first thing she will be thinking is when you will leave. when she doesnt want to do games I wouldnt bring it up until you got more rapport and make a comment how boring she is, give some negative body language.

Sounds like a stressful sarge!

Just remember that women want what they can't have. The key is to be disinterested in her until she reaches the point of losing interest, then draw her back in with a little compliment - but use something different than what she's been hearing all night. Women like that KNOW that they're good looking, so don't tell her that. Tell her it's nice to meet someone who's able to carry on a conversation, because you've met so many beautiful people tonight that are about as bright as candle in a windstorm.

Also, try simple cold reading rather than playing games, especially if she isn't interested in playing a game. The ol' "You remind me of a friend of mine... she puts up this tough, distant front 'cos all she meets are dirtbags who are only into her for her looks... but I'll bet underneath all that, you've got a really sweet, caring side to you that you wish people could see." Then sit back and let her qualify herself. No woman wants to be thought of as a cold bitch.

Once you've got a good rapport going, then isolate her, and use the cube.

Hey I think you did damn well under the circumstances. One thing that might help. When a HB does the 'hey dont want to hurt your feelings but I am just trying to make that guy jealous' I see it as either A. a shit test or B. the truth. Either way my reply has been (2-3 times I am 43 and been around the tracks) as follows; 'hey no problem, thanks for the compliment [pause] .. at that point she might say 'huh?' or nothing... continue, 'well if you're going to make someone jealous you're hardly going to do it with anything less than someone at least as good looking as the person you're trying to get to, now would you?' [smile with a big soppy grin, continue]. 'so now we've established that you find me at least as attractive, and again - thanks - why dont we make him REALLY mad. Tell you what I'll help you. Kiss me. Go on, watch him go freakin nuts when you do that! No? OK I wasnt ready to be used that way anyway, tell you what give me your number, conspicuosly and if it makes him mad you've succeeded, if it doesnt work out you just got a date with the most attractive guy you saw tonight.

Caveat - once a HB turned and said 'dont flatter yourself, anyone would have worked', my response was - well in that case you dont have a choosy boyfriend, maybe I should be thinking twice about you.

I'd probably go with something like this, with a smile in the right places.

ha ha ha hurt my feelings.. ha ha .. wait.. you thought I was trying to chat you up.. ha ha god that's so funny.. oh bless, my my you are quite the little ego star aren't you !

anyway which guy... oh the creepy stalker guy over there who hasn't blinked yet and is salivating like a dog !? .. yeah i can see why you'd want a boyfriend like that, he'll heel and walk well on the lead, fetch shoes for you and even hump your leg if you'd let him he's ideal for you .... and here I was ...begining to think you looked like the kind of girl that likes a challenge, .... I guess my first impressions were right after all


I personally wouldn't do the give me a kiss, number / let's make him really jealous at that point, I'd probably end up over negging and really piss her off.. is my usual style lol

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