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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:18 pm 
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Hey guys! I know that I don't post here very much, but I've got a problem that I think you guys might be the best people to help me.
So check it out:

I've been day gaming this cute HB at college. Today I wanted to go direct on her, but I fell massively ill and simply wasn't in a physical state well enough to game, or do anything!
So I sent her a Facebook message, and she replied. Here it is:

Me: here's something i was too sick to say:
originally i thought you were cute; i had to talk to you. thing is, i've dated a few girls over the summer, none of which turned out to be very interesting. bleeeehhh lol

but here's the deal: beauty is common but personality is another thing. you seem like a quality person! tell me five interesting things about you.. it could be interesting to see if our chemistry isn't just platonic. i definetly see potential for something awesome!

have a good day Telegram Sam! maybe i'll see ya tomorrow!
(yeah man.. i've got 1 hour of class at 13:00.. =p)


HB: Well your presence was missed today in class. 5 interesting things about me, eh? Here goes...

1. I don't date
2. I rarely (if ever) have any desire to be with someone romantically
3. My favorite novel is Lord of the Rings
4. I am on an international Heavy Metal documentary
5. I am a Scorpio

:)


So what the hell does this mean!?? On one hand she passed the compliance test, but on the other hand she sounds like she might not be interested.
I'm confused. :?:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:56 pm 
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Well here's what I tihnk. I think she is on the verge of being hooked providing your next 2 messages are good. As for the last message I think you asked too much, you should have just said "what's 3 interesting/good quality things about you" it's less effort on her part to reply with 2 less things and you are still getting her to qualify to you. Though because she still responded fairly positively I'd say she is interested.
Also I'd suggest that you make the opener shorter:
"Me: here's something i was too sick to say:
originally i thought you were cute; i had to talk to you. thing is, i've dated a few girls over the summer, none of which turned out to be very interesting. bleeeehhh lol "
To be honest I don't think you don't need to say all that, obviously something before "beauty is common" but not so much. I'll just say what these phrases sound like to me: "Here's something I was too sick to say" no such thing, there is no such thing as being too sick to say something unless you've lost your voice shortly, so this doesn't really make sense otherwise.
Then the "originally I thought you were cute; I had to talk to you." To me this says "originally i THOUGHT you were cute but not so much now" kind of insulting her looks to my opinion, also "originally i thought you were cute" makes it sound like you were only interested in the looks from the start (again I say that's just what it seems to me, i'm like a newbie myself).
Like I said it's just my opinion, I'm no master PUA or anything......yet, but this is just what I gather from your situation and my opinions on the information available

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:19 am 
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dude! Thanks Musterion! hahaha! You were the only person (of all the PUAs I know) to reply to this, so your response is very much appreciated! :)

oh yeah, and your avatar is fucking awesome! 8)

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:19 am 
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You said that you wanted to go just *poof* direct today?

If you first do undirect gaming, you cant just suddenly go all direct. Its weird.


The point is with undirect gaming to slowly start giving her compliments.
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oh yeah, and your avatar is fucking awesome!
Plus, try not to seem so much like a tool.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:40 am 
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Sounds like shes baiting you to me fella, don't get hooked,, hook her!

Quite rightly said mysterion was a very good interpretation

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:20 pm 
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First of all, Musterion is thinking about this FAR TOO MUCH in detail.

And second for musterion, it wasn't an opener.

Now thirdly, never say things about other girls in that kind of manner. For example : "I've dated a few girls over the summer, none of which turned out to be very interesting."


It seems like she isn't so interested in you to give out extended answers to you and that "I don't date" was an IOD.

Tell me more about you two if you want to know a little better.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:30 pm 
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Well maybe I am thinking in too much detail but I'd rather that than not think about it enough. Yes I know it wasn't an official opener but unless I'm confused it was the opening message of that specific conversation so I just put it there, does that really matter though?

Lastly, my avatar rules lol.

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First of all, if this was a cold online approach then I think it has the potential to be a decent opener. But you already know this girl in person, so I would have gone a different direction.


Here's where you pretty much blew it:

-You DLV'd yourself by saying you're "sick". Maybe not a huge deal, but if thoughts of you with your head in a toilet pop into her head you're gonna lose value.

-You use the word "date" which automatically gives it away that you're romantically interested in her and she's already won you over.

-You bragging about dating a few girls over the summer makes you come off as try hard. Girls have a 6th sense for this.

-There's no playful teasing or push/pull. It's just you giving her IOI after IOI after IOI.


Now, all that being said, she did answer your qualification question, which can be interpreted as a good sign. The problem is she gave one-word answers and half of them are either genuine IODs or shit tests.


There's A LOT of damage that's been done. But it's all fixable :)

Here's what I suggest: Freeze her out for TWO weeks. Don't message her...don't even talk to her in class unless she initiates it. If she says hi then smile and confidently say Hey back, but that's it. If she asks how you are then confidently smile and say "Really good, thanks" and don't ask her back. Don't give off an asshole vibe though, say it genuinely and confidently. When you're in class or in her presence make sure you're appearance is super confident...like your life is awesome right now. If possible, strike up some playful convos with other girls in class to try and create some jealousy plotlines.

The point of all this is to undo her thoughts that you are romantically interested in her...or at least make her think twice that she's won you over. Time is the greatest weapon we have when it comes to fixing our screw ups with women. The worse you screw up the longer you have to freeze her out.

So to summarize: during the freeze out period, act chill and confident...don't make it seem like her IOD's have affected you at all. Make her think she's just another one of those girls who you decided was "uninteresting"


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read up on scorpio's too. that's she's revealed it implies it has some significance to her.


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