OK-some of u may have read some of my posts... I have a problem and I've trying to address it but things dont seem to be getn any better and
I'm getn discouraged!

I have a better chance at making out with a girl on a night out sargin than I do getting a date or even a response later! Ive gotten email, phone numbers and tried emails, calls, texts and combinations and I dont know what I can do different but I generally either dont get responses or the responses fizzle before I can get to a date.

Any ideas where I should focus on improving?

Typically during night game, I'll dance w them, chat a little and then get a email/#.

Daygame, will spend 5 or 10 min. doing mostly dyd type approach, get email and or phone #.

But, after that I'm freakin dead! EIf it wasnt for this one hb8 I met from mypace thats crazy about me-I would have NOTHING going on and this scares me!

Any ideas?

Thanks guys!

Your response from a woman to your "next day or so call" is judged primarily on one thing and one thing only.

Just how attracted did you have her to you?
The degree to which she is attracted to you is reflected by her interests in you the day or so after, especially when there is no kiss close... but even then its still a factor.

This is not anything wrong with your game, you just have to step it up a little more. Because, look at it from a womans standpoint, in a bar she will meet at least 10 guys that night, maybe give her number out three times and danced with all 10 guys. You have fallen into the crowd because so many guys are trying to do the same thing. Granted, all of them don't know the PUA methods and conscious efforts but they are still trying to pick her up. So she might have been attracted to you but she was probably attracted to at least five or six other guys that night. So all you have to do is work on building more attraction than just a number and an email. Leave her with something of yours or develop an inside joke with her is something that I do, anything like this. Those are but two ways you can do it, there are plenty of other ways, like just developing a more meaningful conversation with her.

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I may have to spend more time with them. Perhaps I could have with the 3 I met on sunday at the park-but i thought I should do the time contraint and just went for the email close. I guess I feel the more time Im talkin the more time there is to f-it up!

Also, Im worried that if they end thre conve before I do, that I will fail...

Perhaps although my a[[roach anxiety has, to a great extent diminished, I am atill an afc cause Im not hangin with the hb as long as possible and playin the game all the way through. I just always thought that thats what the date was for...

Yeah, maybe you're not getting the 'hook point' or whatever it is. You've got the convo going, a bit of dance, but it seems you haven't given them something to WANT to reply back to. Meth's is right, the girl will probably meet a lot of guys over the night, and you need to be the black sheep in that crowd.

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Hey Entry,

My advice: Phase shift.

Phase shift: take them from the club to another venue and or place. It creates are sense of rapport.

Example.

PUA- "Hey, I know of a sweet club/bar/restaurant/place called "name" where I'm supposed to meet some friends. How about an escort?"

you can end it whatever way you feel comfortable with.

Cheers,
Warden

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Entry1, how have your conversation's gone over the fone.
Wait, let's back track one more step... how did the closes go down... when you # close the HB's, did you give them any SOI's... or did you just bulldoze them into giving you their #'s/email's. U may not have stated your intentions to them despite closing and getting their number.

Now back to the phone conversations, do you bulldoze them there, or have gathered information on them? (Credit Juggler)
I'm a fan of Juggler's methods for creating a Day-2 with a HB. By meerly asking them:
Hey - so what's changed/happened since the last time I saw you?
You're indicating that you're genuinely interested in them...

And extending upon what Methuselah wrote, it's good idea to leave or develop your unique inside joke with her, what it does on the call back is that it trigger's the positive memories (provided you left her with a positive impression) and makes it easier for her to distinguish between the other guys that cracked on to her, that night. I think you can find more under NLP, correct me if i'm wrong. (haven't really done enough reading on, NLP)

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i have said this numerous times in my posts and i still stick with it cuz for me it works. you have to build comfort. when you n-close you have to set a timebridge. you have to make them think that they are the one that had the idea of hooking up later. this is done like this (thanks to mystery)

you: set a time and place that you are goin to do in the next week. lets say its goin to the mall. "hey i am goin to the mall on thursday to pick some shoes up, we should meet up there at (time)" then when that happens pull out your celly or pad whatever you have and then be like "whats your number." if you have a strong frame and she is feelin you then you are set. thats it. its worked for me numerous times try it out and tell me if it works for you.

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