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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:53 am 
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Ok theres this girl that I work with that I kinda had a crush on but never made a move, well Im a fucking AFC. Shes a HB10, blond, eastern european ancestry, very smart and probably the sweetest and most sincere girl i've ever met. Naturally every guy in the office in love with this girl but don't seem to do anything about it. My boss the alpha male, tall, naturally good looking and confident attempted to charm her but she put him in the friend zone so fast he didn't know what hit him. Since starting the game I was able f-close 3 times, a HB7 and two HB8 and yet I still consider my self an AFC and will probably for a while. But nothing could prepare me for a 10 like this one. Every time I see her I always pretend to be going somewhere or try to look busy so that she doesn't notice me and put me in the same category as the drooling idiots in my office, I pretend to be completely oblivious to her looks and its killing me inside I seriously want to tell her how I feel but I know that I will lose her forever. As far as Im concerned I am still in the game, Im still a stranger who hasn't approached her and fucked it up completely. So I go out sarging for a little bit with some successes a couple of numbers and a couple of kisses, but I keep thinking about this girl. I couldn't take it anymore so i decide to go home and re-read Mystery method for the 20th time, and formulate a plan to talk to her the next day.

Its Wednessday morning and I get to work early because I feel like im a head of the game when ever I get some where early. Very few people are here but I notice she also got here early and is at her desk getting things ready. I go to the break room to get some coffee and she follows me in there. She talks to me first but Im assuming she's probably bored since there are only 5 people here this time in the morning.

HB10: Hi *smile*
fatass: Hi
HB10: you always get here this early?
fatass: I read in Fortune magazine that 85% the top CEO of big corporations all get up before 5 A.M
HB10: Wow... thats quite ambitious of you, you seem like someone who takes a lot of pride in his work.
fatass: I love my job and can't wait to start...*smile* (serious sarcasm, Im just an intern here which means i make minimum wage and im anyones bitch and to top it off my boss is a good looking douchebag)
HB10: haha, is that sarcasm i hear?
fatass: you're in accounting, im not getting you coffee*straightface*
HB10: haha fine then, so where do you go to school?
fatass: [school name] blah blah
HB10: wow, how do you ever get any work done with all that partying?
fatass: Do you have a line of communication with my mother?
HB10: You're mom does not approve of such behavior :P
fatass: Im a goodboy 75% of the time ;)
HB10: What about the other 25%? :)
fatass: I don't know you well enough yet, can I trust you with such information?
HB10: yes you can!
fatass: hmm... I don't know
everyones arriving and I start to walk away
HB10: tell me, heres my # text me sometime during the day, I get so bored by myself over there
fatass: you're unbelievable, texting when you are supposed to be working, Ill tell my boss and he's gonna come over there and punish you for being such a bad girl :twisted:
HB10: oh please don't :shock:
fatass: oh come on he's perfect for you in a about a few weeks you guys will be dating and then ill probably walk in on you guys making out
in the break room. :lol:
HB10: Oh stop it! He's a good looking guy but he tries to hard sometimes and its kinda of a turn off :roll:
fatass: He does have a nice body though, probably overcompensating for something :P
HB10: I'll tell him you said that haha
fatass: then you'll have to talk to him haha
HB10: Damnit haha

3 hours later I get a text

HB10: so Mr. Mystery whats your darkside? <-- exact words, should've responded Mr. Mystery is my father, call me [real name] haha
fatass: the force is sketchy with this one :P
HB10: fine you meanie :(
fatass: :)
HB10: you keeping secrets from me is affecting my performance :(
fatass: oh no!
HB10: what?
fatass: you're starting to sound like my mother, now I don't think this is gonna work out between us :P
HB10: because I care about you? whatever it was that was going on between us would it have been enough for you to tell me?
fatass :*ignore*
HB10: jerk
fatass:*ignore*

4 hours later
HB10: Im gonna go get some lunch you can come along
fatass: in exchange for my company you can buy me a club sandwich
HB10: grrr fine

Note: I didn't make her buy me a sandwich

We sit on a bench in a park nearby, during lunch we talked about our childhoods, and our dreams. I find out she's got 4 brothers and 3 sisters still living in Iowa, her parents emigrated from Ukraine when she was 6 and how she dreamed of being an actress and shes been in every single play in high school. I told her how my friends used to make fun of me in high school for participating in plays. Then I decided that we should quit our jobs and persue a career in acting, i told her there are plenty of roles requiring an fat person and so few roles open for pretty girls like her since hollywood is full of beautiful people. And told her that I would then have to quit work and take care of her and our 8 kids while she is pregnant with number 9. She says im the most interesting guy she's ever met, I wanted to tell her that I've been in love with her for the past 4 months and quit all the game,c/f, pushpull, negging shit. But I can't Im not willing to lose her. She begins to give me the dinner doggy bowl look, I start to play with her hair, then I sniff her hair I tell her she smells sexy, i massage her neck, she looks into my eyes I know I can go for the kiss. I hesitate, and then talked my self out of it. We get back to the elevator and I run out of things to say, and its awkward. We get back to work and she tells me that she'd have a great time. My biggest fear now is that I LJBFed my self by not going for the kiss and making my self looking like a wuss. Any advice appreciated, please tell me if there is still hope


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Yeah there is. Just move in for the kill next time you get a chance, missing windows of opportunity like this can be a turn-off. Nothing you have to worry about though, keep gaming by the books ;-)

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do you have paranoia or what? ( sorry for my language) how can you think that you loose her?....just play the game other time and it will work....but next time go for the kiss...you are doing very well...you rock at it! :shock:


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Seriously, stop worrying. Ok the final part may have been a bit scary, but re-read your conversation and txt with her and you should see she's definitely into you ;)


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That's probably the longest post I have ever fully read on these forums. Nice writing.

You obviously know where you are with this girl, next time you get a chance for the kiss, go for it. NEVER hesitate for a kiss. It really sucks for both parties. You worry about it and she gets a bit wierd and it's all bad. I would suggest that you try to get her out of work soon, get her somewhere where there is external stimuli, hell, movies at your place might be perfect, but you use your calibration and run that game to the letter.

Sounds to me like you are doing fine. Don't get all awkward with her, build some sexual tension and then go for gold. A sexual connection generally buoys a relationship along for long enough for you to really get to understand each other.

I think it is also very important to let her know that you feel a bond for her now that you have talked, tell her it feels good, all that C2 stuff. Then move it on into C3 and bounce to S1.

Good luck man, I think you'll own it!

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oh man you are killing me lol, no its not over yet you did really good time to setup a 2nd day


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HB10: so Mr. Mystery whats your darkside? <-- exact words, should've responded Mr. Mystery is my father, call me [real name] haha
fatass: the force is sketchy with this one Razz
HB10: fine you meanie Sad
fatass: Smile
HB10: you keeping secrets from me is affecting my performance Sad
fatass: oh no!
HB10: what?
fatass: you're starting to sound like my mother, now I don't think this is gonna work out between us Razz
HB10: because I care about you? whatever it was that was going on between us would it have been enough for you to tell me?
fatass :*ignore*
HB10: jerk
fatass:*ignore*
I don't like this part at all... Lets say that you are "overgaming". Let yourself go and just be laid back. Everything you say don't have to be sarcastic smooth PUA shit.

You push too much.

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aargh. I read this thread and was totally rooting for you! Can't believe you didn't close but can totally understand how much confidence that would take. I'd like to think in your shoes I'd have gone in for the K-Close but hell, who knows!

Anyway, hope you get another chance and keep the rest of us AFC/PUA-Wannabes updated on your progress.


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HB10: so Mr. Mystery whats your darkside? <-- exact words, should've responded Mr. Mystery is my father, call me [real name] haha
fatass: the force is sketchy with this one Razz
HB10: fine you meanie Sad
fatass: Smile
HB10: you keeping secrets from me is affecting my performance Sad
fatass: oh no!
HB10: what?
fatass: you're starting to sound like my mother, now I don't think this is gonna work out between us Razz
HB10: because I care about you? whatever it was that was going on between us would it have been enough for you to tell me?
fatass :*ignore*
HB10: jerk
fatass:*ignore*
I don't like this part at all... Lets say that you are "overgaming". Let yourself go and just be laid back. Everything you say don't have to be sarcastic smooth PUA shit.

You push too much.
I totally agree I was "overgaming." At this point I found it hard to believe I didn't crash and burn in the first 10 min, I was nervous as fuck. It probably has something to do with my low self-confidence. I really tried to not run routines on her because she would have seen right through them. Instead I wanted to convey a confident image without appearing needy.


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Thanks for all the feedback and advice guys! I really appreciate it, its very encouraging to be able to find people who have this kind of knowledge and are willing share it. Anyways im gonna give ya an update on my situation, she's decided she wants to be my official lunch partner, yeah so we'll be eating lunch together everyday now.(every guy in the office hates me now ;)). I invited her to come to the park with me and my dog on Friday so im looking foward to that, my dog Mick is the best wingman i could ever ask for. She's invited me to go to the dance club with some of her friends on saturday, All her friends are all HB10s and HB9s so I gotta bring my best game come saturday to win them over, of course im only interested in this girl. Will try to go for a kiss close sometime this weekend probably at the park, nothing will break my heart more than being put in the friend zone so wish me luck!


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First off . . . you've got game and you've already hooked her. She's thinking the same thing now . . ."Why won't he kiss me? Damn, I should have kissed him!"

In regards to the park thing . . . I'd suggest finding a more private place. Office relationships can get complicated and a public area tends to get both parties thinking too much. Although by this point, any place will probably work . . .


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Thanks for all the feedback and advice guys! I really appreciate it, its very encouraging to be able to find people who have this kind of knowledge and are willing share it. Anyways im gonna give ya an update on my situation, she's decided she wants to be my official lunch partner, yeah so we'll be eating lunch together everyday now.(every guy in the office hates me now ;)). I invited her to come to the park with me and my dog on Friday so im looking foward to that, my dog Mick is the best wingman i could ever ask for. She's invited me to go to the dance club with some of her friends on saturday, All her friends are all HB10s and HB9s so I gotta bring my best game come saturday to win them over, of course im only interested in this girl. Will try to go for a kiss close sometime this weekend probably at the park, nothing will break my heart more than being put in the friend zone so wish me luck!
going out with HER friends is quite dangerous as you will be entering her world on the 'first date' and you will have to try to befriend all her friends...its way easier to lead and take her out to the places you normally go to. but anyways good luck :)


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Based on what happend at the park you should just call her when you guys are not at work and set up a day 2. Let us know what happens.
Hope it works out.


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