At the moment, myself and a mate, Basil on the forms, in darwin are learning to open and keep the conversation flowing. We aren't too pro as of yet, but we are making progress. This week we are going out every night in order to gauge which nights are the best to go sarging. My mate is a little newer to the game than me (by like a week) and he is a little more shy, so I am doing the openers and he is contributing where he wants to. It is going pretty good so far.
First of all we went out to get dinner, so we went to the Cav. It is a backpackers place with an outdoors bar and, we found out tonight, an indoor bar/restaraunt. So we went in and got a beer each to go with dinner, and the girl behind the bar opened me. I was under the impression it was supposed to go the other way. She had some crazy story about how she got maggot and lost all her stuff and some bloke who looked like me got it all back to her. Blah blah blah.
She gave me IOI's from very early on, and I could tell that she had a bit of fight in her, so I negged her quite a bit. She said I looked 'angelic' so I negged her with the classic 'we would never get along' because she was dressed in all black, so she was evil. This really worked well, she tried to qualify herself straight away by saying 'yes we would, I'm a nice girl' etc. There were alot of interruptions, though, since she had to consult customers and the like. I negged her alot, like when she tried to restart the conversation I said 'excuse me, I am reading the menu'. She loved it. I asked her the turtle line, and this really started off a good pace for the rest of the interaction. I would ask her random questions like that and she would try to answer them. It gave her a good reason to come back to us after each interrupt. Questions I asked were:
"If a turtle loses it's shell does it become naked or homeless"
"Pirates or ninjas"
"Do penguins have knees"
and a few others I can't remember, but those gave me enough to go off.
We also tried the five questions game, but she had an offsider who was obviously deeply entrenched in the friend zone and was trying to cock block us who fucked it. Apparently when I got her number he was very upset. Yesssssssssss.
I ended up getting a number close, after a bit of negging and joking, I even told her the one about the midget who walked past a girl and said she had nice smelling hair, she loved it. In a 'oh my god you're crazy' way.
After I got her number, we talked to her for a bit more and then left. I gotta put props to my boy here for providing alot of the material here during the interrupts, I woulda run dry without it. He also suggested a new concept I had never thought of before, where you assume that their accent (this girl was welsh) is from somewhere it obviously isn't. I asked her if she watched the olympics and asked her if she went for "Australia or Russia, where, you're from", where she was obviously not from. We tested it in a later set and it worked again. It is just a funny thing that they seemed to like, as long as they have a foreign accent I think it would work.
So we went for a walk and I opened one that I can't remember much about. It was insignificant. Then we got opened by some promo girls and I negged the hell out of them. We used the accents one on them, since they were from 'other lands'. There wasn't really much there, but they were about 8 and 9. But I don't think promo girl game is really in my repetoire yet.
Sum up:
If you detect an accent, instead of going 'where is your accent from? like everyone else, pick a country that they are obviously not from, like india or russia or somewhere with a really strong accent, and ask them something about that country. "where in spain are you from?" or "So you're obviously italian, do you have a massive family restaurant we could go to?" or whatever.
Having a few interrupts is helpful to think of new stuff if you run dry.
If you detect a bit of fight, neg harder, but not too hard.
Don't be shy about asking for numbers, if they say no, too bad for them.
Destroying a friend zone's dreams right in front of his face feels soooooo goooooood
Ok, so this may not be too helpful for most people, but it was a good opportunity for me to practice in-set-thinking and we came up with something I hadn't heard of, I don't know if Basil came up with it or what, but props, it worked well.