just came home from the club... what a horrible night...
i got snubbed by 20 girls today... not even 1 good set... how about a world record...

i couldnt get to talk to anybody from my position and constantly needed to move around to find a set to target. moving around makes you look try-hard and needy, because you walk towards a set and its showing too much interest. i guess i lowered value by that and the girls register that unconsciously and its all a negative cycle which gets worse and worse.
i tried to stay at 1 position, but if there's no one to talk to, you end up alone and staring, which is also very bad... so to counter that you end up walking towards new sets to open, but because you walk towards them its lowering your value and makes chances very high that they snub you...

how do you guys solve these situations? when everything is just not rolling the way you want it....

Yeah i know what you talking about...Sometimes i just sit by the bar have a drink then i look around, once i finish drink i move towards the set. Sometimes i just go dance on the dance floor, grinding on the girl for few then I start talking to her by running "Very direct game"

(putting my hands underneath her hair and grabbing her head from the back and pulling closer towards me, speaking in her ear).

Me: I gotta tell you, you look really amazing, i really want to get to know you girl.
Me: I want to know what is it gona take for you to love me?
Me: i gotta feeling that you and i would have a lot of fun together, lets get a shot/drink while you tell me a little bit about yourself.

I need to move her away from the dance floor to quiet area so i can continue my game.

Once at a bar waiting for bartender or drinks i go with..

Me: seriously you are really sexy, but thats all i know right now, now i
want to know what else you have.

you get the idea, i dont know what is your game style, but i like direct game, shows a lot of confidence and boldness and as i progress i challenge the girl make her qualify, tell few dhv stories, future projections, nlp patterns etc.

Sarging alone can be a monkey’s uncle…it really rests on your entry into the club and body language. Show people that you’re there to have fun, open sets without anything direct so you can return to them later.

PUA: I probably won't remember your name so I'll call you Martini/Tequila/whatever

Let go for the first hour or two, dance and DHV using AFCs and then move in once you've shown you're not on the prowl, you big bad dog.

PUA: Martini!! Still here? Thought you'd have picked up a guy by now!!!

maybe lucius has a point about direct game in really loud clubs...

i used to do direct game before my pua days. and all though i got blown out hard in like 50% of the cases, in the other 50% of the cases girls loved me for the confidence/honesty. especially in a loud club with most girls at high buying temperature... its like they want it to happen. as long as you are not a big nerd any cute cool guy with enough confidence can do that to them. it also shows you are not afraid of your sexuality... (is that willingness to emote too?)

since the pua days i've tried the different route... i'm trying not to show interest in the beginning (opinion opener) and on anything they answer: i interpret it as an IOI (sometimes falsely misinterpreting or reframing as IOI) and bust on them for hitting on me with C&F stock answers... and do some pre-made DHV stories and some gimmicks, which "at least in my plan" should bring them to A3 (female to male interest) so i can start qualifying etc.

but i guess i do have problems with going in without showing interest (it is not congruent on me yet)... the girls are usually weirded out in a club if you come up to them and then start on some opinion opener.
they are like: you look too cool/high-value to be asking some opinion based thing, "you could have directly hit on me"... "but you didnt"... so you must have low self esteem for not having the balls to just go direct with me....

whats your opinion on this guys?

just wanted to tell you guys, that i have an afc friend who is actually quite succesful with direct game too. funny thing: its totally different than pua strategies. let me tell you about his ways:

he stands next to me trying to be cool all night doing nothing (no sets) and then all of a sudden he points out the hottest girl and then tells me "look at her... she wants me"... (and he actually believes that).
sometimes she even picks up on him pointing at her because he does this in public for everybody to see, but when she picks up on him pointing at her he will just interpret that as "she must so happy now that she found out that she got my attention". then he will tell me : "look at her she's trying to dance extra special for me...girls are so stupid"... he thinks that everything she does is especially for him. (even if she's clearly not in my opinion).
At this point its all a bunch of bullshit of course that he's saying, but this guy ACTUALLY BELIEVES this girl wants him. on top of that he believes in his core that all girls are basically stupid like little children (so in his mind he always has a much higher value than any hot babe, which of course is the way to do it).
then he will make a gesture for her to come to him... 5% of them does come to him, with the other 95% he will just walk up to her after she rejected coming to him (even though this walking towards her lowers his value a bit, he doesnt care because in his mind his value was 10 already and a 9 will be good enough too) and then he'll say that she's so sexy (in his mind he is actually giving her value now... its like saying: all girls are stupid, but you are sexy at least... without really saying that, but framing it like that). i guess the trick is to look in a certain way that she feels that you think "you probably are just a stupid girl, my value is way higher, but.... you are damn sexy though (or any other sexual compliment) and i will give you a chance to prove yourself to me.
after the direct opener "you are so damn sexy....look at you! damn!" , he will go into asking her what else she has going on except this, or if thats all there is to it.
50% of girls will just blow him off (usually the socially inexperienced ones with low buying temperature who get afraid of him)
50% of girls will let him game them (usually the socially experienced ones with high buying temperature).

good things about his style:
- he's honest
- he's in touch with his sexuality... he says whats on his mind "you are damn sexy" (willingness to emote)
- shows that he is already pre-selected by women, because he must have women in his life with whom this style works, or he would have stopped this direct behavior a long time ago by all the rejections (so he probably didnt get rejections, so women probably like him).
- he has standards (he wont just keep talking to her and trying for rapport because she's sexy, he will push her to qualify)