Well yeh I can't know for sure obviously but did it incase lol.
Anywho we have a reply.

Ha ha, yeaaah, be warned =P
I'm grade 6 standard although I never practise because all the pieces you have to play for exams suuuck so bad.
I know! More people should learn instruments! The world would be a better (and more musical) place. =D
Oof, when I was 5....I don't know! Ermm, I wanted to be a pop star, but I also wanted to be a vet, 'cause I loved (and still love) animals. But I couldn't bare doing like, operations and stuff or putting them down, it's far too depressing.
Random questions you're giving me =P
What did you want to be when you were a kid then?
xxx

As far as I can tell from this message her interest hasn't dropped. Looks like talking about music was the correct avenue to go down. The "when you were 5" question seems to have gone down well also, and she's keeping the convo going by asking me back. This all seems to be going pretty well from what I can tell lol. Think I'll try tackling the next message on my own aswell, lets see how long it takes for me to screw it up lol.

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Get out of this mindset right now. You are in a position to succeed. She seems to enjoy the banter back and forth, but within the next couple messages you are going to have to make a move otherwise it seems you are teetering into just being her online friend. She seems intrigued enough... Vapor seems to have you pointed in the right direction.... ABC my friend... ABC...

Good luck bro

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I was just joking on the screw up thing bro hence the lol. I know it's on, just thinking of a way to transition to # close right now actually. I don't wanna fall into the online friend trap, have had that happen before (didn't help I knew less than I do now back then). I'm just struggling to think of the "excuse" (if that's the word) for her to gimme her number, I can't go out anywhere for a meet up etc for at least a week as I have no money until payday next week so am a little confused about this lol. I'll work it out though.
Thanks for the good luck message, personally I'm a firm believer of the old saying "you make your own luck in this world".


EDIT: I've come up with a reply but I want some critique on it first, inparticular the ending. Just to explain the start, her display pic is her standing infront of the statue of liberty.

Haha I knew it that statue of liberty pic ain't foolin' me
From what I remember grade 6 is pretty good so kudos to you!
We should totally do a piano/guitar combo, that would be awesome! We'll go busking in town dressed in spandex with big 80's style multicoloured hair, get some strobe lights and play jazz-funk to bewildered passers by!
What's the matter, can't handle the randomness lol, hey it beats the usual "hey, how are you, what you up to, where you from, whats your occupation" doesn't it
WELL when I was a kid I was hell bent on world domination or to be a professional musician! World domination is just a tiny bit harder than being a musician so I'm going for the latter instead
You seem like fun, we need to hang out sometime and create some mayhem! What's your number and I'll give you a call/text, I'll be the one calling 54 times a day breathing heavily down the phone
Dave

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Seems pretty good. You definitely need to go for the number close before things go stale.

I think your message will work. I would take out "hey it beats the usual 'hey, how are you, what you up to, where you from, whats your occupation" doesn't it'" because you're unnecessarily qualifying yourself. Also, as far as needing an excuse to go for the number, here's a really good one:

You seem like a fun girl, I'm not a big fan of extended myspace convos...let's exchange info...XXX-XXXX...and if you turn out to be one of those crazy internet stalkers I'm going to be SO mad!

So I would drop the unnecessary qualification and replace the last sentence with the one above.

***TWO POINTS I want to explain:

1) using the phrase "let's exchange info" will have a much higher success rate than asking or telling her to give you her number. "Exchange" puts you two on the same level as each other. Also, giving her your number (personal information) first will make her feel much more comfortable giving you hers back. Second, using "info" instead of "number" makes it sound less like a pick up and helps disguise your romantic interest.

2) Flipping the "internet stalker" frame on her is an ridiculously effective trick that increases your chances even more. If YOU'RE the one accusing HER of being the potential weirdo then she's gonna want to defend herself instead of worrying about you being a potential internet creep, which could make her think twice about giving you her number.


Good luck.


V

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Thanks man. To be honest after I posted the message on here and read it again I thought the "hey it beats..." was qualifying myself but wasn't 100%.
Yeah I like your ending better lol. Like I said I was having trouble thinking of one. I'll send the message in the morning, don't want the time of the message saying 2:50am really lol.
Time to rock n roll and get this damn number!
Cheers for all the help.

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Little update. I think I have blown it lol. She was online earlier today for a good 20 minutes (I know coz I was online aswell) maybe more as I went off before her and I have yet to receive a reply to the message I sent yesterday. Maybe I'll get one later or tomorrow or in a few days but either way this has been an educational online sarge so again cheers for all the help.

Here is the revamped message that I sent from the old one I posted:

Haha I knew it that statue of liberty pic ain't foolin' me
From what I remember grade 6 is pretty good so kudos to you!
We should totally do a piano/guitar combo, that would be awesome! We'll go busking in town dressed in spandex with big 80's style multicoloured hair, get some strobe lights and play jazz-funk to bewildered passers by!
What's the matter, can't handle the randomness lol
WELL when I was a kid I was hell bent on world domination or to be a professional musician! World domination is just a tiny bit harder than being a musician so I'm going for the latter instead
You seem like a fun girl, I'm not a big fan of extended myspace convos, let's exchange info XXXXXXXXXXX is me, and if you turn out to be one of those crazy internet stalkers I'm going to be SO mad!
Dave

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you have to look in your sent folder to see if she's read it or not. If it still says "Sent" then that's a good sign. If it's been read but she hasn't replied then freeze her out for about a week, then re-open her. It took me 3 times once to get this one girl...she wouldn't give out her number for some reason...I re-opened her 3 times...I finally decided to screw the # and the 3rd re-open we planned our "meet up" over myspace and we ended up dating for 6 months.

sorry my young squire...I feel like I've let you down lol

V

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Just checked, yeah it says read. She is currently online aswell ironically lol.

Don't worry my man, you haven't let me down at all, this has been fun lol. I am much more knowledgable now than I was before, I like the phrase "Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted."

EDIT: Forgot to mention, how exactly do you re-open, I've never fully understood this.

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lol it's fun shit isn't it! Especially when you know what to say.
With an attraction story. Start out with:

"Hey goofball! Long time no talk. lol I saw the funniest thing today that reminded me of you..._____(attraction story)_________."

Let me know if you can't find or think of a good story. I must say, for your first online sarge you got further than 95% of guys do. And the best thing about online sarging is you're NEVER out...you can always let some time pass and re-open her....it's not like at a bar or club where you can't afford to screw up because you'll probably never see her again.


In the meantime you wanna help me out and practice on one of my girls? I'm juggling too many right now. Let me know how you would reply to this new virgin message I just got today... (virgin message = the 1st message/reply she sends you)






I'll give you a hint: She's not quite hooked yet.


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Gentlemen, we have SUCCESS!!!!!!!

Received today and I just read it, no need to re-open it seems, the freeze-out did all the work for me haha.

Sorry I haven't gotten in touch =P
I added your mobile number to my contacts but I'm nervous to text it!
Lol!
Mine's *********** =)
xxx

1 myspace sarge and 1 number, can't fault it

Vap0r I think I may have left it too late now to practice on that girl, or have I? I haven't been online too much the last few days so hadn't really checked this thread.
Either way, first #-close so I'm happy. Now I need to work on some text game lol this'll be fun.

EDIT: Just noticed that I only sent 4 messages (including the opener) to get the number.

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Nice bro! Can you paste the entire convo in this thread? I'd like to read it from start to finish

It'll be interesting to see if you can get the next number completely on your own

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Haha yeh hopefully I can lol, I have the basic knowledge now anyway, and one of the 5 messages was completely from my own head (though following the guide of course, and yeh i just noticed it was 5 not 4, can't count) so there may be hope for me in this mad world of online sarging yet.

Here is the full convo from bottom up:


Sorry I haven't gotten in touch =P
I added your mobile number to my contacts but I'm nervous to text it!
Lol!
Mine's *********** =)
xxx

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ..Dave..
Date: 19 Aug 2008, 12:34

Haha I knew it that statue of liberty pic ain't foolin' me
From what I remember grade 6 is pretty good so kudos to you!
We should totally do a piano/guitar combo, that would be awesome! We'll go busking in town dressed in spandex with big 80's style multicoloured hair, get some strobe lights and play jazz-funk to bewildered passers by!
What's the matter, can't handle the randomness lol
WELL when I was a kid I was hell bent on world domination or to be a professional musician! World domination is just a tiny bit harder than being a musician so I'm going for the latter instead
You seem like a fun girl, I'm not a big fan of extended myspace convos, let's exchange info *********** is me, and if you turn out to be one of those crazy internet stalkers I'm going to be SO mad!
Dave

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ..Steph.....
Date: 18 Aug 2008, 13:32


Ha ha, yeaaah, be warned =P
I'm grade 6 standard although I never practise because all the pieces you have to play for exams suuuck so bad.
I know! More people should learn instruments! The world would be a better (and more musical) place. =D
Oof, when I was 5....I don't know! Ermm, I wanted to be a pop star, but I also wanted to be a vet, 'cause I loved (and still love) animals. But I couldn't bare doing like, operations and stuff or putting them down, it's far too depressing.
Random questions you're giving me =P
What did you want to be when you were a kid then?
xxx

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ..Dave..
Date: 18 Aug 2008, 12:29


Haha you're so precious, kinda. I bet you're one of those girls my mother warned me about.
I just noticed you play piano, how bad are you? That's still pretty cool though. Play guitar myself, not enough people learn to play instruments these days, so fun to be on stage though, even when things go wrong lol.
So what did you wanna be when you were 5?...and dont say princess!!
Dave

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ..Steph.....
Date: 16 Aug 2008, 17:53


Oh my that's so excellent it's unreal!
I love a bit of adventure me
Thanks for the island thing, I was beginning to wonder why people were staring at me weirdly...=|
=P
xx

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ..Dave..
Date: 16 Aug 2008, 15:58


That's awesome you admit you're a complete goofball...don't worry, I wasn't gonna tell EVERYONE I don't have qualities as much as superpowers. One of my superpowers is of course my ability to spontaneously change hair color! lol. Oh, and did I mention being able to pronounce the word "island"...you don't say the "s"...but shhhh, don't tell anyone I told you lol. Others include trusting my instincts and my kickass adventurousness!
Are you adventurous? because we can't be friends if you aren't!
lol omg you know what we are gonna do? I'm gonna dress up like a priest and you're gonna dress up like a nun…and we are gonna go out to public places and sit down, and when people are watching us, we're just gonna lean over and start making out and people will be like "WTF?" but we won't care because it will be so fun!

Dave

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ..Steph.....
Date: 15 Aug 2008, 22:08


Ooooh! Sorry! I don't really browse people on MySpace =P
Dammit! That is my best quality! =P
Ermm okay well I guess I'm quite strong emotionally...that's good =P
I can laugh at pretty much anything, even myself. Most of the time that's the case. Ha ha ha!
And ermm...I don't know! I suppose I'm optimistic when everything's shit =P
So yeah =D
Same question to you then, seeing as you've made me think. Lol!
xx

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ..Dave..
Date: 14 Aug 2008, 19:15


Well I haven't added you YET goofball!...gotta make sure you aren't one of those crazy internet stalkers first
And I TOTALLY agree...you should be sorry! lol. after all I've been on this myspace thing for quite a while now and it took you this long to say hi! A bit rude don't ya think
So I'm curious...what would you say are your 3 best qualities? ...and don’t say your ability to spontaneously change hair color! lol
Dave

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ..Steph.....
Date: 13 Aug 2008, 11:03


Sorry, my bad. Lol. Usually when people add me I wait for them to talk to me so I don't make myself sound insane...a bit like this =)
Hey =)
x

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: ..Dave..
Date: 13 Aug 2008, 04:24


Are you shy or something?



Was really fun, but the fun aint over, I can either open with a text (was thinking something like "seeing as how you're nervous to text i'll be the man and take the initiative") or I was thinking one more myspaz message just for comfort, I think I'll decide tonight when I go out for a few light ales with some buddies.
Cheers

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Just a quick update, I've given up on this chick now, I ran some text game the other night and made sure she was the last one to send a text. Worked kinda well and she texted me 2 days later but I think I may have messed it up, either way I've kinda lost interest, I noticed her myspace profile was lying when it said she was 19 (I'm 19 also), coz I read a bulletin she wrote with a quiz thing in it and right at the top it said "Age: 16". She's not a minor but it just makes things a little more awkward coz I can't setup a meet in a bar or club or anything (which is where I have any kind of experience, havent moved to day game yet). So yeh I've pretty much left the sarge now unless she reinitiates again in which case I MIGHT try to set something up.
Anyway just thought I'd post that, I won't bore with any other updates in here now.
Cheerio

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