probably practice makes perfect.

speaking of practice, what's the best place to practice online? i know david d talked about aol, but i dont' want to subscribe to anything. tried meebo for a while, which was good, and then it went dead--nobody's ever on it...

I had the same issue, and you know what I started to do? I started reading more. Get yourself a book like "The Game" or anything that interests you. It will increase your vocabulary and en richen the mind. Trust me, you will find it much easier to talk to girls and carry on a conversation. Read for like an hour a night or whenever you have time, but try to do it every day if you can.

lol

I actually used to do that (not the exact words haha), makes me feel stupid when I think how much of a limp I was back then

ahhh where to start

Firstly, AFC's think that when talking to a new HB that they only need to imput 50% of the conversation and the other 50% will come from the HB. They are wrong.
Most HBs will only give about 10% into the conversation until they become comfortable talking to you (its sort of a test to see how intelligant you are and also to not come across as sluts to their friends). Now, if you only give 50% and they only give 10%... whats gonna happen? 40% of the time its gonna be an akward silence bad times

AFC: so where are you from?
HB: london
AFC: whats it like there?
HB: nice
AFC: ...........................
HB: i gtg now, LJBF.

What was wrong there? boring, predictable questions.
Madals: so, where are you from?
HB: London
Madals: Thats really cool, i used to love london as a kid. Especially the science musem, i was a bit of a nerd *laugh* Have you ever been there?
HB: (i will make this hard for myself) No
Madals: really? you really should go some time. So if you dont do that then what did you do?
HB: i went to clubs
Madals: I have never been clubing in london, some1 told me its really overpriced and rubbish, whats your opinion on them?
HB: they are ok. (notice she still wouldnt be giving much?)
Madals: (now showing she has to put in more input) What sort of clubs did you normally go to? Personally when i go clubbing i like the more exclusive locations, you know the quiter places with lots and sofas and stuff..
HB: well.... blabalbalbalbalbalblab


Get the idea? be persistant, afk interesting questions. If you really feel a topic has gone dead move on, make a new topic. Dont try to squeeze every last little bit outta 1 topic if it isnt going well. Talking in depth to some1 about 1 thing is good sure, but talking to some1 about lots of things will make the HB feel she has much more of a connection with and knows you better Good times

/madals

The Truth Game Routine is golden.
Also talk about what ever the hell you want to.
As long as your interested she will be.

social me app on facebook, there's 100s of women online at any time. the nature of the system is closer to IM than messaging. you can work with shorter messages which is more akin to real talking but you've got more time to figure out what to say. it doesnt matter so much if u need a bit of time cos everyone is always talking to multiple people at once. run enough females and the stuff to say becomes pretty natural and you're better equipped to deal with unexpected answers and get across the gaps cos even online u sometimes find yourself at a dead end. huge Repetition gets the material in your head. dont bother with the tagging aspect tho.

I enjoy making statements that elicit a response rather than asking questions. Asking questions definitely has its place but making strong, SPAM can be extremely Alpha. I was at the bar last night and opened up a 2 set, HB8 and HB7. Here is me making SPAM that elicit a response while working a neg. I think....


(My buddy has pistols tattooed on his lower stomach. HB8 gets a quick look and freaks because she does too.)

HB: Oh my god! Those are awesome. I have some too. (lets us see the tatoos. she already opened us so no need for the opener.)

Me: Blah, Those are peashooters. Its ok, though, because your a girl.

I say this over my shoulder while taking my next shot at pool. Look up as I finish it and see the fire in her eyes.

HB: What is that supposed to mean? I got these blah blah blah (I cut her off at this point)

Me: Hey you should pay attention to me and my buddies pool game. Its the championship game. Can't you feel the tension?!

(We start talking about pool and how much she sucks at it and I critique her blah blah blah.)

The neg is obvious. Instead of asking her where she got them, why, etc. (because in all honesty I dont care) I give her peacocking tool (the tatoo) as little attention as possible and bam were talking. To change it to a more sustainable topic I cut her off and make a SPAM. This is conversation. She asks me who's winning, I tell her that of course I am. Its just bantering back and forth about whatever comes to mind. I may not have all the steps of the game yet but I'll be damned if I can't carry on a conversation with a complete stranger.

PRACTICE!

Here is a little exercise. In high school I did something called impromptu speaking. Placed in state two years in a row. You are given three topics. They may be song titles, foreign words, anything. You pick one and have two minutes to prepare for a 5 minute speech you are about to give. The trick is not to have 5 minutes of material prepared for the specific topic, but to have an idea that you can connect the topic to and talk about that for 5 minutes. Same in good conversation. We practiced for tournaments by giving each other only one topic, counting down from three and launching a 5 minute speech. Grab one of your buddies and try it. Here is a quick example..

My buddy throws out "Punch in the face or kick in the nuts" as the topic. I start talking 3 seconds later. First I talk about how much both those options aren't really options in order to give myself a second to think. Then I go on for four and a half minutes about how we should all look for the invisible option 'C' in our lives, not just blindly accept what is presented to us. By the end I am passionately yelling about breaking the mold! lol I know it sounds kind of silly but practice until you can talk for 5 minutes about anything and you will find conversation fun, easy and most of all, enjoyable.

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they way i like to keep conversations going, is by using cold games and the cube, the cube brings about the thought of the future and brings about even more topics to think about aka what do you think about your future? what do you think about.......?
it always works and the cube takes a long time to complete

Good advice. I suffer from the problem described in this thread too, and as practice am currently writing out topic cards and trying to improvise on any random one. I'm also going to record my efforts on webcam so that I can see if I'm improving.

Another thing I'm trying is to build is a small set of stock topics that I can pull out the bag whenever an awkward silence is coming on. Its not necessarily a script, its just a small set of topics that are easy to talk about if you're feeling self-conscious or under pressure. For example family, its easy to ask a myriad of questions and follow up on, its personal and guarenteed to have value for the target.

But as a couple of people have mentioned in this thread, you have to listen to be able to talk. You pick up on something that she says that you think has value and interest to her and try to delve deeper.

Also important to bear in mind that if a girl is acting a little aloof or perhaps is nervous and uncommunicative, then it takes a good PUA to keep the conversation going.

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nice

I assume the op was talking about conversations in general not just with girls. So I'll offer some advice.

Basically listening is key. Try not to kill a juicy conversation topic too early (something I used to do). I met a friend once who had a very similar life story to me so we ended up talking for at least 5 hours.

An example from myself: Met this girl through a friend. Asked the stock standard 'what do you do?' question and she mentioned she was studying something related to the brain. So I took this and started talking about a book I'd read recently about some new research into social brain connections. This topic went for about half an hour.

Try and vary things in your life. Read the newspaper, find some books you're interested in. Try and expand your life experiences.

I actually have an interesting opener that I would love to try. Going to ask a girl/s what they think I would look like in tights lol. There was an article in a local paper that skintight pants are back for men which I disagree with so I'm going for the humour path.

Buy a phone that has a note capacity - mine allows me to store little notes on it. Have a list of topics, if you're out and you get stuck read your list.

Ask people which dwarf of the Seven Dwarves most closely resembles their personalities.

If you ask people straight off and very seriously it can create a very humorous moment and work for funny conversation starters. Plus, it can really get people thinking and trying to name all seven dwarves, as well as figuring out which one they are. It is fun and will create a light conversation wherever you are.

It also gives you an opportunity to throw in a compliment or even better yet a Neg. For example: if your target talks out of turn you could say something like " talking out of turn... shame on you. You must be bratty the 8th dwarf".

There are of course many funny conversation starters and all you have to do is think of what has happened to you recently that you can use to start a conversation to get people talking and laughing. You might still think it sounds difficult, but try using funny conversation starters and see how easy it really is.

Just like LesPaul said it perfectly.. Would you rather be around someone who couldn't keep a conversation going or someone who brings up the most random topics. After having field tested this I have found that bringing up random topics in a conversation can work perfectly. I was so amazed because before I was so scared of saying stuff like no this is way to weird and off topic but believe me if you keep bringing up new topics people will look at you as the Alpha male since you are starting every topic.