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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:57 pm 
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ok, so i tried to open my first set today. went to a bar with some friends earlier this afternoon and saw a 2 set. both about 7-8 and my age.

anyway, i noticed them coming in and just standing around and next thing i know i'm on my way to go open the set, without even thinking of the possibility of rejection. so i was like "wow, this is going to be ok". unfortunately for me, the bar is pretty damn huge and it took like 20 seconds to get to them. by that time i've already developed major AA and my palms were sweating, which is a problem because its considered good manners to shake hands with people you meet here in south africa, including girls.

by the time i got to the girls i was fully aware of my wet palms and the fact that my head is filled with negative thoughts. but it was too late to abort as the girls already saw me coming. the only good thing about this approach so far was that i knew i looked confident... because i saw myself in the mirror behind them.

so this is pretty much what happened:

me: heeeeyyyyy
girl 1: um, hi
me: you girls seem fun, thought i'd come say hi before i get back to my friends
girl 2: um, ok
girl 1: well, you said hi, now what?
(by now im super nervous and my mind is racing through different ways i can get kicked in the balls. i had nothing to say. my mind was completely blank)
me: hey, relax a bit, its not easy to go up and talk to random girls. anyway, im (name)
girl 2: nice to meet you (name) im go and this is *pointing to girl 1* away. bye bye.


any advice and criticism? i seriously need help with my approach and a way to ensure i stay out of my own head.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:34 pm 
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i've already developed major AA and my palms were sweating
Problem number 1. This kind of nervousness usually results in really bad bodylanguage, such as not smiling and holding EC with the target while walking towards the girls.
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me: heeeeyyyyy
girl 1: um, hi
Bad approach, never wait for an answer for something like that, it comes off as reaction seeking.
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me: you girls seem fun, thought i'd come say hi before i get back to my friends
You said you were in a bar didn't you? OPINION OPENER FOR GODS SAKE. Ten million other guys will use direct game there!

Direct game is for daygaming when the girls don't expect to get hit on.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:45 pm 
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I need some help how to get over this before I go clubs on Saturday all week I will know all of my openers and know what to do when going up to set’s. When I do go out on the Saturday but when I enter the clubs I will start to forget all my martial.

It will get worse when I am in club like If I Shaw girl which is a HB9 or any girl I want to approach in the club I start get this doubt coming thought my head Such as she not looking for a guy like me or If girl makes eye contact and look at me and she is (7 to9 HB) I would think she is look at next a next person behind me or something else but I would be me.

P.S So I end up not Speak to any sets in club and this has happen to in the last 3 times I went out and this just come from no way

I just wondering can any on give any suggest how I can get over this


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i've already developed major AA and my palms were sweating
Problem number 1. This kind of nervousness usually results in really bad bodylanguage, such as not smiling and holding EC with the target while walking towards the girls.
that wasnt the case though because they only looked at me for the last few seconds, i kept eye contact and i had a nice relaxed smile. i checked the mirror right behind their heads just to make sure i still looked confident and relaxed
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me: heeeeyyyyy
girl 1: um, hi
Bad approach, never wait for an answer for something like that, it comes off as reaction seeking.
ok, didnt know that. thanks.
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me: you girls seem fun, thought i'd come say hi before i get back to my friends
You said you were in a bar didn't you? OPINION OPENER FOR GODS SAKE. Ten million other guys will use direct game there!

Direct game is for daygaming when the girls don't expect to get hit on.
umm, is day gaming like randomly on the street, in shops etc?
because this was at 13:00 today, though it was in a bar, so i wasnt sure which to go with.

anyway, much appreciated man!


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Yep, direct game works really great anywhere but bars, clubs etc., where all the HBs expect to be hit on and all the guys go direct on them.

And MG, when starting you should always have a friend or someone with you when going to clubs. They will encourage you.

After you have made your first success, all your beliefs about girls not liking you will vanish away for ever and ever.

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I commend you for going up and approaching the two hbs. You realize now its not that hard. The thing is the two girls saw you coming from a mile away. You were like a missle aimed right at them, so they were able to instantly put up their bitch shields. They were prepared to reject you. Instead of directly walking up to them, let them get comfortable in the SPAM. Circle the bar in such a way where you end up beside them. Hold good posture, your arms to the side, out of your pockets. Then you can open.

Standing beside them is less confrontational. Think of it like this, when you are in a fight, you stand directly infront of each other. If your shoulders are parallel, on the same line as theirs, it is much harder to be confrontational.

Good luck bro,

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