hey guys,

I was out last night on a birthday party of a friend.

It way my class social circle, so everybody knew me.

But I just felt like I was the most beta of males there, I tried leaning back and stuff, teasing girls here and there, telling a few strange stories but people just didnt listen to me. At one point I, desperately, I cracked a really bad joke and reaped nothing but an awkward silence, closely followed by hoots of laughter, not at the joke, but at the fact that no one was laughing.

Though it wasn't meant that way, I felt like a tool.

I didnt have much to say as I could't deliver canned material, these people knew me and would know I was making stuff up.

Is there any way to get more social status, be more alpha, u kno..
WITHOUT canned material?

Or was this just because I was in a group that knew me, because I'm really worried about this happening in set.

cheers

come on guys help us out
I've got the same question, this happens to me sometimes too
Peace

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Because girls don't like sex.. Yeah RIGHT!
Why else do you think girls have P*ssies

read some more on being alpha. There is loads of stuff online. Personaly i recomend "carlos xuma - secrets of the alpha male".

Apart from that and you saying you have nothing to say, the best advice i can give is forget chicks and get urself an interesting life. No seriously, its not meant to be harsh but stop sitting here reading and get out and do stuff.
Join a club, play a sport, get a hobby. That sorta thing. Then you will ALWAYS have something to talk about.

/madals

If you try making a radicalish change in your style and apearence so that people notice, fromm this you can demonstrate all the other things you have changed about you aswell as being now "super alpha" .
it worked for me but its well hard with friends youve known for ages, maybe especailly when the other guys always fuking cock block u by drawing from past ocasions. freeze them out for a few weeks and come back changed!

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I recommend you work on your confidence once your confident everything will be better for you try taking speach classes and learn about an alpha males body language that really helped me

don't worry, i used to have the same problem. i always hang out with the same group of good friends, so whenever we go to like a small gathering or something with other people its not like I can act completely different, right?

the best thing to do i'd say is go into story-telling mode. If you know those people I'm sure you have a funny story with them. When you're in a big group of people and you want more social-proof, just start with "hey do u remember that one time ____?" Then go into story mode. Someone in the group probably won't know the story, so be the guy to tell the story. Everyone will listen to you while you talk, and you will instantly be the center of attention.


An example of this happened to me yesterday....i was with a group of my same friends and a few girls happened to join us that we all knew. So, i looked to the girls and said "last weekend we met the CRAZIEST BITCH EVER". all my other friends all pitched their two-cents into the story, but ultimately i was the one telling it. Social proof right there, try it out.

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appreciate the advice,

thanks!

being the alpha male = feeling like the alpha male.

if u have to come up with stupid jokes to attract ur friends attention, they can go fuck themselves. Walk into the party with ur head high and be prepared to talk about anything that is thrown ur way.

Read at least one article from the news on each topic a day. Not only will this improve intelligence, but it will give u a ton to talk about and u'll seriously look cool.

Or just relax into the situation. Silence can be very alpha. Use it to observe the interactions. You dont have to be in the mix to be alpha.

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Madals basically took the words out of my mouth

Hey man. It's really important that you actually believe in what you're doing. If you're leaning back and teasing girls because someone told you to do it you give off a different vibe than if you actually think you're the shit. It's important that you keep your frame.

This is difficult but there are two posts I'd recommend you check out. I've linked them below.

Try doing all that stuff in the mirror. Non-verbal gestures tell a lot about a person, especially their confidence.

You could also try some solo sarging. In your situation it's possible your friends have stigmatized you to the point where it's difficult to grow and change. Things change, friends change - that's life.

Don't be put off by small setbacks like this and keep at it.

Here are the links

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24-nonverbal-cues-to-establish-your-dom ... highlight=[/url]

Goodluck bro

CPT

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You've said it yourself. It's your class social circle. Everybody knows you; the way to act, the way you speak, whatever. You can not change this in just one night. There are already alpha males in your class, you can´t just join them. They will know you are faking it and I doubt they want you to out-alpha them.

Raising your social status

When I enter a party, i just go talk to EVERYONE right away. not just the cool guys, the pretty girls, but everyone,especially the low value pple aka the true-afc-for-life guys and the ugly girls too. If you can make em feel good, make them feel like they have more value, they'll be looking up to you all night! remember, if you can make pple feel good, they'll wanna be around you.
When i see pple from high school who were big shots back in the day, alpha male of the school kinda people, i go up to them wit a big smile. I try to make them feel even better about themselves, and by doing that they feel better about me! And don't think it won't work for you cause in high school i was at the BOTTOM of the podium, the lower pedistal, aka whatever synonym to loser. but it still works, they wanna hang around me cause i learnt to make pple feel good about themselves.
Another point: If you can raise someone's social value, it will raise yours, maybe even higher than theirs. so imagine raising the value (status) of the AMOGs!!

another simple thing is being happy. if you're in a good mood, you'll be shedding happiness everywhere you go. making pple feel good, raising their value = raising you value. it's all the same thing

No matter what, don't bring someone down. You DON'T wanna compete. I would rather be hanging around with the guys that the girls find attractive (Alphas) than around the unattractive Betas. together you can rock any party, alone it's not gonna be easy.

It's hard to turn beta friends into alphas, unless they're willing, so i go out with my alpha friends if there's gonna be HBs to be found. If you got none, you gotta make some.

just a few tricks that can help you along your journey to ultimate pua-ness!! good luck

-Lucky D

HMMMM, sounds like a great idea, but i like to talk to one girl and leave her and then talk to another girl right in front of her and make her super jealeous, and then just ignore her and at the end of the night i talk to her again, and then BAM, they usually crack easily, lol

I think this is excellent advice in that a confident individual is a likable individual. This isn't a truism that is 100% accurate, but it is generally applicable. Secondly, if you REALLY have issues with self confidence and body language (which is huge) then taking speech classes and so forth is also a smart move. SUch classes would likely be a benefit to anyone who takes them.

NbBurna also had an excellent point. If these are your buddies then use the positive experiences you have with them to remind them how much fun you are etc, make all your guy friends laugh a few times in succession and you are well on your way to changing your entire night; done constantly, your life.

Lastly, I'd becareful about jsr52's advice. Being alpha is not just thinking alpha, though this mentality is helpful at times.

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