Hi captains, how're ya doing today?!

well let's get to the topic XD
2 days ago I was in the mall with a friend (he's also a pickuper), I look to the McDonallds place and I see 2 girls, once of them- wearing mini-skeart, blond strait hair, breasts- facking unblieveable! let's call her HBdefance (you'll understand why )
I'm going strait ahead for HBdefance, I put my hand softly on her sholder, and say to CB- "hey, I'm stealing your friend for a moment, I'l give her back in a couple of minuets."
CB- No!
Cleopatrra- *to HBdefance* what a gros friend you have!
HBdefance- *now I get how high is her bitch shield* what do you want?
Cleopatrra- "smiles* I wanna talk to ya for a moment, come.
HBdefance- NO HANDS!
Cleopatrra- ok, come *and I'm still kinoing HBdefance*
HBdefance- *the boonker's defance- rising!* snaps my hand* no hands!
Cleopatrra- you know, with this attitude of your, I don't wanna talk to ya anymore, don't you ever talk to me again. *turns my back and walks to my friend*
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now, this is the shit test I just don't know how to pass through, or how to keep going without it ( )
How can I make her bitch shield disapear? or make her remove it?
*no negs, I really find them useless. I don't wanna break her shield, I want her to remove it by herself. usually I do it good (except with that "no hands!" thing

thank you boys! (and girls?)

Tell yourself this now.

I am creepy. I am creepy.

Chant...

once.

twice.

thrice.

and breath in.

Repeat.

Look man all I can say is, Do away with this method of opening all together.
Never try it again.
Do not field test it, unless to get over approach anxiety or something (better ways to do this though).
I don't really have any advice because I don't know where to start.
But!
I do have some constructive criticism!
For starters, you haven't even built comfort with this girl's friend so there is no way she is going to let her friend go with you.
You haven't built any comfort or attraction with this girl so there isn't a chance she is going to be alone with you (you were going to isolate I take it?)
You were touching her when she possibly was not attracted to you whatsoever.
And you didn't DHV or build attraction or anything.
All in all.
It was creepy.
When you told her that you didn't want to talk to her ever again I think she probably thought "Thank God!"

Plenty of material floating around these forums which will give you a better approach.
This may have been harsh but I am emphasizing what my opinion is on this method of opening.

Giacomo is open to abuse if if you deem it necessary!

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- Giacomo
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I dont know where to start either. But you need to u need to reevaluate your game dude. You came off as a creepy ass motherfucker. Never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever approach a woman like that again. Don't ever put your hand on her before she at least attracted to you.

Open to her and her friend (ask a question opinion, or just say hello)
The reason her bitch shield is up is because you made it go up.
Come in under her radar and make her be attracted to you by use of negs, DHVs, etc before you go molesting her.

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Amor est Vitae Essentia

thanks for the replys people, but I really think you didn't understand my intentions.
firstable, I dunno how you people do it on america but here in Israel every physical touch is welcome, we're a very warm and united people, so if I touch her sholder I wouldn't be concidered as a rapist

And my intention isn't to get under her radar, I'm not gonna fack her when she don't notice (I hope you know I said it as a metafore ) I wanna go straight in her radar, I want her- but I don't need her.

When I go with the direct game (which is usually) I know I gotta do it in a facking hard frame & inner game, along with gunwitch and along with alot of seduction elements (which I always do).
And another thing I like about the direct game is that you can always confuse her, do be direct, to iniciate an interaction and when she applys- you "ignore" her, that attraction shit.. how is it called in english?

nevermind, I think I know what I should improve in my game (after I read it and remembered in the situation)

thank ya boys

i think the biggest problem with this game was the lack of negs.
having a warm culture makes negs welcome by the hbs(i am from greece and we are somewhat like that here)
i also think that holding her hand and ignorig her objectios was another great mistake.
all in all what you did was more of a(verbal) fight than a sarge.