Hey guys, I don't sarge much (mostly at clubs), and never expected to really use any PUA stuff in field, but opportunities came up, and I k-closed all of a sudden. So I'm thinking, a f-close opportunity could also pop up some time in the near future.

I have neverdone it before, can somebody point me to some good links or posts to kind of show me what to do? Its like joining a game of Uno without knowing the rules, I need someone to fill me in.

What are mistakes that first-timers should avoid to pretend to be exprienced in front of the HB? Can someone tell me a typcal example of what happens? I can imagine it starts with making out, then what goes on after that?

Good question...Im in the same boat...Would really like some good tips haha

Virgin mistake Number # 1:

Always carry out a condom lol

Then how do you get access to one?

Whatever you do, don't say your a virgin. This fucked me over on an f-close twice before I finally smartened up.

I can't speak from a guy's prospective but I'll tell you what I look for...

1. Don't spend TOO long in the make-out zone. Yes you need to get her warmed up, but if you make out too long it will eliminate the anticipation of sex. I would say a few minutes tops.
2. When you want to escalate from making out to more, start by reaching under her shirt and unhooking her bra. Have a little fun there then take off her shirt and pants. If she hasn't stripped you yet, then you need to help her do it or just do it yourself.
3. Don't rush into sex...turn her on even more with some oral first and maybe even have her cum once before you guys have sex.
4. Have her go down on you or whatever you need to be ready
5. When you are feeling good, tell her you have a condom and if she gives you the go-ahead then there ya go....
6. Just because you cum doesn't mean she is done. If she didn't cum or orgasm then continue pleasing her until you are ready to go again. A girl can go a lot more then guys and in shorter spurts

Besides tip #3
Nice Tips Bonita.. nice tips

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great advice bonita

ps. there are girls on this site? haha

AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! Don't admit you're a virgin! EVER!!! It will totally cockblock you every time! When a girl asks you: "Are you a virgin?" she is shit-testing you. She does NOT want to know that you are a virgin. She wants to see that it's not a big deal to you. Just blow it off as if she's a pervert trying to take advantage of virgin guys.

The only reason I say this so forcefully is that LONG AGO when I WAS still a virgin, I totally screwed up my first potential f-close this way (I took her question seriously). And she knew one of my PUA friends, which was AWKWARD! And she was super hot, and since I was new at this, my friend let me try to seduce her without interfering... and I fucked it up by admitting I was a virgin, so it was a major embarrassment in every way.

Don't take it seriously. Not at first anyway. And remember - you're NEVER a "virgin". The girls that are okay with virgins will never ask if you are one - because they don't care.

totally agree with this i was getting with a hb10 who did a lot of modelling before i got into the game and i ended up telling her. biggest mistake i could have made and was pretty much the reason she wouldnt sleep with me i think most girls see it as a bit of a burden.

Line to use if she asks you:

"Why don't we do it first, and then you tell me whether you think I was after."

Delivered with a sly grin.

Thoughts?

I don't think that I've ever had a girl ask me if I was a virgin. I have sarcastically told women that I am a virgin before and they always look at me and say "yeah right". I would say to listen to the girl who posted as she is spot on. The only way I would tell her I was a virgin is if she told me she was first. If you do wind up sucking in bed then the HB will either think that you are a virgin or you just suck in bed but guess what... getting better in bed is a matter of practice and if she likes you enough then you will get way more practice.

if you make it an issue, it will be an issue. i was really late when i started to do it and i was already in this mindset, what if she finds out? should i tell her before so she wont freak out? or would telling freak her out? blablabla mindfuck. Actually when it happened i had stopped thinking but did what i wanted to do in that moment. it is really no big deal. and often enough the first time sucks because both parties are slightly uncomfortable with having sex with a stranger so far, so she certainly will blame it on that if it was really bad. but how can it be bad if you pay attention to what might please her as well and not only your willy and if you take your time and act not shy about it.

besides that David D.'s 2 step forward one step back works wonders, it is all about building up anticipation and tension. ideally you don't force it but heat her up until she cant hold it anymore and when that fire is burning you can do it even very oldstyle and it will still be more than ok.

ok i'll copy paste here some parts, cos i think it is right on the spot and i am too lazy to write my own:

here are some excerpts from DD sex secrets:
As far as the senses go: In general, women get turned on by a few
major categories of things:
1. Voice tone, sensual (not sexual) language, and vivid descriptions.
Women love to hear a sexy voice describing ideas, feelings, and
scenarios in painful detail.
2. A wide range of different touching, kissing, stroking, caressing, and
cuddling.
3. Smells and smelling. Women love great cologne. And women love
to be smelled.
4. Tastes. Women love to be fed all kinds of wonderful things like
Strawberries, chocolate, and champagne.

Next I talked about how women notice details. Women notice subtle
things. If you rub a woman’s hand, she’ll feel warm and friendly toward you.
If you very very gently and slowly run the tips of your fingers over her
hand, she will begin to get aroused (other conditions have to be right, of
course).

1. Touch her very very gently and slowly. Use the very tips of your
fingers. Run them over her arms, neck, shoulders, lips, hands, legs,
feet... everywhere. If you avoid her breasts, crotch, and ass, you’ll
even get her more turned on for later (Remember anticipation? It
will drive her crazy... “When is he going to touch my tits?”).
2. Kiss her sensually. Let the first kiss be very light... almost a brush.
Then wait (anticipation). Kiss her 100 times on the neck and
shoulders. Suck on her lips gently. Lick her just a tad on the neck,
shoulders, and lips.
4. Smell her. Smell her neck and shoulders for about 5-10 minutes
STRAIGHT. No kissing. No licking. Just smelling for 5-10 minutes.
Gently run your nose and lips over her shoulders and neck smelling
her.
5. Talk sexy to her. Men like to hear “I want it harder big boy”...
women like to hear “Your lips feel so soft and sexy. I love the way
your lower lip feels when I kiss it... And I could just kiss you for
hours... it feels so nice.”
6. Tell her stories, and describe what you’re going to do to her. If
she’s getting turned on, take a few minutes to whisper in her ear
exactly what you’re going to do to her. “You know what I’m going
to do next? First, I’m going to slowly and gently kiss your
shoulders... and then work my way up to your neck...

The Transition Into Sex (Also Known As ‘Foreplay’)
I know that this sounds paradoxical, but you have to ACT LIKE YOU
DON’T NEED IT. You have to have an “I can take it or leave it” attitude at
the beginning. Later, after things are rolling, you can bang her brains out
like it's your last chance to have sex this lifetime (interestingly, if you set it
up correctly, she’ll love it if you do, too).
So to begin with, start then stop. Start then stop. Do something that’s
arousing, then cool it and do something else.

The way to get her to want to have sex is to create this anticipation
while at the same time stimulating her senses. Combine this with a casual
attitude of “I’m enjoying this, but I don’t NEED it” and you’re off to the
races.

I recommend this sequence:
1. Run your hands over her breasts (through her clothes).
2. Run your hands over her ass (through her clothes).
3. Pull her shirt up just enough to expose her stomach a tiny bit, and
then start touching it very gently and slowly... also touch her back
where it’s exposed.
4. Stop once in awhile. Create anticipation.
5. Next, take off her shirt. Don’t immediately go for the breasts! Don’t
do it! Gently touch every part of her that’s exposed. Kiss her shoulders...
6. If the “I’m getting really hot” signals keep coming from her, now
touch and kiss her breasts gently
7. Next comes the pants. You may have to take shoes and/or socks off
first. Slow and deliberate.
8. Once the pants are off, keep kissing, smelling, tasting, gentle slow
touching... and add touching around the edges of her underwear.
9. Finally, reach down and touch her gently between her legs. She
might resist this (or any of the previous advances). If she does, just
stop and go back to building anticipation.
10. For the sake of all the dumb-ass men in the world, I have to say
“If she says “STOP” or pushes you away, then stop. Never force a
woman to do anything.

Oral Sex
For a woman, her whole body can get turned on. So don’t forget to
keep touching her and paying attention to the rest of her body.
1. Begin by KISSING your way down her stomach... and then her
inner thighs and legs... anticipation.
3. Begin by kissing her gently. Kiss her and lick her slowly and
deliberately. Make some “Mmmmm” noises
4. You have a couple of major tools, and a couple of ways to use
them. Use your tongue on her clit, and your fingers on the inside.
5. Start with kissing and licking, then a few minutes later insert one
finger. If she likes this, ask if she’d like two fingers. Go slow, as
most women need to relax and get used to the stretching.
6. Mouth options: Licking up and down, side to side, in circles, directly
on her clit, around it, sucking.


Do yourself a favor: Tell her what you like and how you like it. But
don’t make it sound like you’ve done this a thousand times and you’re an
expert at describing it.

Sex
I think it’s a good idea to always be paying attention to how she’s
responding to your touching, kissing, etc.
Different women like things differently, and sex is where this makes
itself more obvious.
At first, you’ll want to go very slowly. Only insert the very tip of your
throbbing manhood, cowboy. Then pull it out. Then the tip. Then pull it out.
Anticipation. Anticipation. Anticipation.
Repeat “I can wait” 1,000 times.
In any event, notice what makes her feel good, and do more of it
during sex.
Here’s a list (did you notice that I like lists?) of other ideas for you:
1. Try variations, like 9 fast shallow thrusts then one slow deep one.
This will make her gasp every time you go deep.
2. Look into her eyes while you’re having sex.
3. Caress her body, kiss her and touch her, and remember the rest of
her.

7. Another technique is to slow down (which women love) and imagine
yourself somewhere else in order to prevent the premature EJ. Just
imagine that you’re swimming in the ocean. Hear the waves, feel
the water on your body, and taste the salt. This will distract your
mind enough to get control.


personal note: once things get really steamy i'd might be her who pushes things from A-Z pretty quick, all you have to do is go with it.

hth.

Man, you people make sex out to be like a game of neurosurgery...it's suppose to be natural.

When you're in the moment, simply introduce your friend 'Peter' to her friend 'Vagina' - lucky for you Vagina is good around other people and is always welcoming, but Peter (like the AFC that he is) will only get better with experience.

And since Peter isn't a fully qualified PUA (yet) you'll have to do some peacocking with some clothes from Condominium

I think you mean Virginia!!