So, I've been wondering how to engage an HB 5, 6, or 7 because obviously they won't be as shallow as an HB 9 or 10.

What would some good openers be for the 6's or 7's? I know most of the material within PUA is to pickup 10's, but i'm not shitting you when i say i literally have no place to go pick up girls where 9's or 10's would come to (of course with the exception of the movie theater, but those are all jr high kids, and i'm not a fuckin pederass).

i run into more 5, 6, or 7's due to total coincidence. of course, living in suburban AZ with almost everyone being too lazy to do anything physical, i do run into a lot of warpigs... which is bad because in my AFC days those were the only girls that liked me.

thanks.

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It does not matter how ugly or hot some girl is, any given girl you approach will have the chance of being shallow. Also just so you know average girls get approach a lot more than the attractive ones do. And I bet average girls are more likely to be shallow because they get more guys approach than the hot ones.
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Go get your nails done on a Saturday. See how that works out for you. High traffic area for women, and if you don't see what you like... well, your nails will look great and women do look at your nails. Or take a road trip. Do you live far from Phoenix?

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eh, not too far from phoenix. i could definitely get there without a problem.

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warpigs lol

still laughing now

hahah warpigs could not stop laughing but its sad cause ive been in the situation for the last 2 years.. major AFC time period..

im starting to hit the 6-7s now because of the game but still want to work up to the 10.

jurupa, if you say they get hit on more than the 10s, could negs and routines reserved for the 9s and 10s still work on them? i mean their grown shallowness will probably make them think they are that good? im just guessing here SPAM..

So true! Listen I am from Phoenix. Stationed in NC right now. Everytime I get off the plane back home I look skyward and say thanks for being back in the land of hotties! Head to scottsdale/tempe area. HB8's and 9's are standard. Mickey's Hangover is a great place to go with plenty of hotties that is not as much of a straight up club scene. I used to game 6, and 7's religously and even if I had a HB9 give me eyes I would do nothing. Having been on both sides of the fence let me say that you can run into bitches/nice girls, sluts/heavy LMR and shallow/cool as shit no matter what the girl looks like. Go get yourself a HB9 bro. Its so much more fun to show your AFC friends pictures of girls they dont think they could ever get with.

Sounds like you take things a bit too much for granted. You never know with girls... of course, if you think a girl is smoking hot, chances are that more people have noticed and given her a lot of compliments and stuff. Which makes it necessary for her to develop defences (else she becomes a slut). But that is not always the case. Sometimes a girl that is an HB8 or 9 to me can be completely unaware about her beauty herself. Then you have to treat her like an insecure 6 or so, even if she is smoking hot. Also, looks ain't got nothing to do with shallowness. The only clear tendency I see is that HB8-10s tend to have pretty good bitch shields... If you aproach one of them you should be mentally ready for a possible onslaught BUT! Beneath those defenses they can be really sweet. OR total assholes.. the thing is, you never know in advance. Get in there and find out if she's worth your time!

But of course, sometimes you talk to a really ugly girl just for the sake of conversation and get hit with an atom bomb.. you never know. The best all-round advice would be to be aware of human psychology and try to be ready for pretty much anything, I guess

I always go for cocky/funny.. in my experience it works with ALL girls. You just have to get a feeling for how much funny and how much cocky to throw into the mix. That can only come from EXPERIENCE. Get out there and make some mistakes!

hahahaha me too, it really tickled me for some reason.

lmfao @ warpigs.

i'm a massive advocate of cocky/funny...

regarding shallowness of girls, i feel it depends on the area... i live in England and many HC6 or 7s act as if they're 10s just becasue where they live there arent many nicer girls.... but put them in the middle of london and they become an insecure wreck becasue of all the stunning girls that are literally everywhere. and they're not used to it.

Try going to a big sity rather than messing around in the suburbs playing day game.... its not called Project Hollywood for a reason. Girls seem to act in ranking not actual beauty.. so if a girl is the hottest in her college she will act like she is the hottest in the world (neg the shit out of her)That way the 7s and 8s will be happy to be hit on by such a charming guy as yourself as all the other guys are drooling over the 10s.... keep your blinkers on though

Hope all is well

GG

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haha warpigs brilsiandt!!
hmmm i mean use that word as a neg for a 9
(i v never seen a 10... they dont exist in my game)

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wtf ha ha! dude, if you think jr high kids qualify as 9's or 10's you might be a pederass. Seriously, they might be cute as in "cute girl, she will be hot one day", but they shouldn't even be appearing on your warpig to ten radar.