hey everybody readin my lil post (1st one). Anyways I'm just startin out and I'm lookin for some prime ways to start this PUA stuff. Like what did all these professionals do in their early days... just run up to a woman and try out an opener? see what happens and go from there, or is there a better way to start out?

Hi Letangly.
I gotta be honest with you about the differences between- normal AFCs (Average Frustrated Chumps) and the guys who make a name for themselves in the Community.

A lot of them were hardly chodes nor IT Professionals (however I despute the stereotype that all IT Professionals have zero people or social skills).

Even if MPUAs (Master Pick Up Artists) were shy in a Social Environment- a lot had degrees in Psychology (AFC Adam was in Public Relations which involves extraordinary people skills learnt on a Degree course). Mr M is a University Lecturer/Lawyer- again extra ordinary interpersonal skills etc etc.
Richard La Ruina too has multiple skills in Business>
In all fairness Savoy does not lead guys on with his Magic bullets book talking about men achievements and how to convey them to women.

I think most of these guys just transfered what they already knew into Game (Mystery- now based at the Venusian Arts - is a good place to start as most MPUAs have ripped off his Method before pissing all over it with-"hes irrelevant" or I don't use his techniques- when it is obvious they do.

so simply build on what you know...haha I like it.
And you said for me to look at other peoples books and such but I cant bring myself to spend cash on anything.
Free Info is what I like

So there is no chance of you doing a $3000 3 day bootcamp- lol

Yeah build on what you already know.

T from seduceinseconds (type it into youtube for a live approach video) wrote a hilarious observation in his E-book weapons of mass seduction.
He said that Game without Core Confidence, Achievements, or exisitng Social Circle with ahealthy dose balance of female friends is a bit like those cars ya know?

The ones with alloy wheels that cost more than the car itself, with an exhaust pipe that makes the 1000 cc engine sound larger than what it is,
with all the bells and whistles etc etc.ala a skoda "juiced up"

Convincing a woman without Core Male Attractiveness- that you are a ladies man is like convincing a woman that the above car is a Ferrari

hahaha well ya know with the 1000s of bucks just kickin back in my walet how could I say no?:P

So core confidence and inner game would be about the same thing right?
Achievements- that'd be things you've wanted to do in your life and have accomplished in doing
and the Existing Social Circle- quite obviously your social network

But you made it sound like you only need one to have "non-hollow" game?
And all in all the way I look at it is if you're happy with your life and have anything bigger then mustard seeds for gonads how could you possibly have "hollow" game?

Correct to all the above except the part about "things you've wanted to do in your life"

For those reading if you are a promising Medical Student aged 19 for example- girls aged 18 will see more potential than if you were 23 and working at McDonalds making physical cash.

But as the saying goes you cannot make a reputation out of what you intend on doing in life. A rich man does not need to say he's rich you know?

So to correcting that mistake would simply say achieve without bragging, achieve and DVH?