OK so I'm confident at opening and hooking a set. I can start talking and become the centre of attention. Easy. I just don't know when/how to isolate a target.

How long after opening a set should I isolate?
What steps can I take to ensure I will be taken up on the offer?
What should I do/say to isolate? Need a few decent methods to try out.

Some scenarios I can imagine are in a bar/club, house party, outdoors or perhaps coffee shop.

If you are kind enough to reply would you also say whether you have tried the methods in field and how well they work for you. If not then I still apreciate any theory knowledge you may have.

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I pretty much use material from the Venusian Arts so that's where these anaswers are coming from, and in my person experience.

You should be isolating as you are entering into comfort phase. I can't really give you a time frame because every set is different. If I had to give you an estimate give or take about 15-20 minutes in set, sometimes you can do it sooner.

To be taken up on the offer make sure to befriend the group with the way I'm about to tell you. Make sure you engage all of them with conversation at some point, and give them good eye contact, it builds trust.

Okay, the opening is done, the negging is pretty much over because she's attracted. I've shown some interest in her at this point by not ignoring her so much, and maybe even stating it a bit. I say to the group, "Your friend and I kind of like each other, you mind if I borrow her for a minute?"

Once you have the approval of her peer group it's going to be hard for her to object because she wants to stay with her friends. But we want to preserve the comfort levels with her here. So after they give you their approval then I say to them, "We're just going to be right over there!" and I point to where I'm going to be. Stay within about 10 to 15 feet so they can see what's going on, and don't get worried about her and come looking for her.

There is no need to take her somewhere that her friends can't see her. They will just get worried about her, and come looking. I've winged sets where my buddy isolated and went somewhere too far away. I had to disarm the group the whole time, and it was tough keeping them there and cool.

I will take her hand and tell her, "Hey come with me" OR "Hey I want to show you something cool!"

Anyways, take her somewhere where you too can sit down like a couch or something. Somewhere far enough away the group can't really hear the conversation but close enough they can keep eye contact with her and know she's safe and stuff.

PEACE

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great answer thanks for putting it into perspective

However, isn't it a little tactless to say 'your friend and I like each other'? Wouldn't you want to say something a little more under the radar?

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No, there is no reason not to say it. At this point you have to consider that we've already gone past the point of showing disinterest in A2 Female to Male attraction. We have gone past A3 Male to Female attraction which is showing some interest back in our target. We are at the point we want to get 1 on 1 with her to build intial comfort.

If that still feels awkward to you then you could always say something like, "Your friend and I kind of like each other do you mind if I borrow her for a second? I mean should could say something that totally turns me against her but we'll see."

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OK thanks JSmooth you're very helpful.

I will try this stuff once I get some work finished and can finally hit the bars!

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u should isolate when u belive it is a good time to. if u want a time constraint, ill say anywhere btw 10-30min. whenever u get a transition from A3 to comfort (ur qualifying her and shes hopping thriugh your hoops, u recieve IOIs) make sure here friends and your friends know where your goin, this is imp.

what i usually do is ill grab her hand gently and say "me and you are going on an adventure" this is after i do my adventure routine, which is a quality i seek in women (screening routine used in A3) ill then tell her friends and mine that we are going deep sea diving (my friends know this is something im very interested in). it does not matter if theres a pool or not.

thats one technique ive had alot of success with when it comes to isolating. or u can always cover her mouth with your hand and drag her out, which ever works for you

lol good one

After some time in the field I found that if you open and hook well then the friends will often leave without you having to isolate. But the deep sea diving thing sounds fun.

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good advice

nice

I also have trouble with this as well because if I'm at a house party with a group of friends and I can be leading the conversation and talking to everyone and to the girl as well I feel it will be to ackward to just take her away from everyone and all the focus is on me and what the hell am I doing just getting up and trying to take this girl away everyone is instantly thinking in their heads that I'm being creepy and trying to suduce this girl or something.