Unfortunately, this is not an advice thread. I need some help!

Here's the issue: I have a couple girl friends that want to go out sarging with me as a female wing. I have never sarged with a pivot before.

1. What do they need to know before I can take them out?
2. How do I go about training them so they can be the most effective?
3. What are some good strategies that will take advantage of their gender?

Any advice would be appreciated.

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-That's my two cents...

I can't say one or the other, because it is dependant upon skill level really. An amazing guy will be better than a good girl, but an amazing girl is better than a good guy. I've never seen anyone of equal skill level, it is completely qualitative, not quantitative, so I can't say which is better if they are the same level.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

Trying to sarge with a female wing who is aware of your PUA thing is like trying to be in a band with a chick. There are going to be a rare few who can help tremendously, like Zip or bands like Evanescence and Nightwish, but most of the time it's all going to go to shit. Yes, I have tried to recruit girls as wings several times and yes, I have been in several garage bands with girls. None of that shit ever worked out for me, and don't ask me why because I'm just going to end up sounding like a sexist prick.

Just have girls around you or on your arms or whatever to demonstrate preselection. Save yourself the hassle.

I'm with Chief, I think it's a rare breed of girl that you could tell about PUA stuff, have her not think you're a creep and then actually want to help you. It's worth it just to have the girls around for social proof, most girls are too AFC to help beyond that.

they are rare. rare rare rare. you have to make sure they won't secretly want to get with you, and that they are really there to help you out. also, you have to make sure you help them out as well.

There are lots of things that you can do to help out a female wing with guys in bars.... good guys in bars. Locke helped me out in set in Cape Cod, and it was fantastic.

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- Zip

Well the girl that really wants to be my wing is married to one of my close friends, so I don't have to worry about her really just wanting to get with me.

Maybe it would be better just to keep her in the dark and just use her as social proof? Or should I give her a crash-course on winging?

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-That's my two cents...

Man, you need to go for it with the woman. I've had SEVERAL female wings and pivots. Most of them wanted to get with me or had already been out with me, yet they STILL proved productive in the field. I just gave them the bare essentials, as far as telling them what was going on in the minds of other girls while they were with me, seen with me. They found it fascinating. You don't have to go into any real depth with them unless you are building a company with them or something like that. Basically, teach them the basic attraction switches so they know how to help you flip them and teach them how to DHV you so that you don't have to do so much of that yourself. Let THEM build YOU up in the targets eyes. That's what it's all about bro.

Thanks buddy. That's extremely useful advice.

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-That's my two cents...