Do you think an opinion-opener is enough or do you need to go direct? What about negging as an opener?
When do you - in this highly emotional situation - estimate the time when it is right to close?
You mean doing A1-A3 and C1-C3 in 5 minutes? Wow. How do you do that.
Sure go ahead and explain.
Sure. Is he "some dude" in your mind? Or "a douchebag". Or "what? that dude is her protector? hahaha I could kill him with one punch." You get the idea.

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Well lets get really in to the detail now:
Never neg the obstacle. You open the male with, for example, some sports stuff and just befriend with him. Then you could stack an opener and neg (if possible) the target with "I didn't ask from you... Is she always like this?! Anyway, what was your opinion again (ask the target)?" etc. Chat with your target for a moment and number close infront of the boyfriend.
I mean #-close inside five minutes. Plus, I don't rely on MM-method's stages anymore.
If you have a good game on a girl you just met for a small amount of time, you will remain a mystery to her for most part.

Heres when her imagination kicks in for you, she fills those voids she doesn't know about you with something she imagines you as, thus making her more attracted.
You think of him as a normal person. No hate, no love. You treat him as an equal.

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Unless u already know this girl its not going to happen otherwise your just asking for trouble be smart

do yourself a favor dont take advice from ppl with rediculous theories example like stetson said before about # closing a girl in front of her boyfriend. think if that was u and some dudes trying to take your girl out you'd bout ready to kick his ass right?

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Thats why you befriend with the boyfriend. He won't see you as a threat because you started talking to him not her.

And anyway, if the boyfriend confronts about you getting his GF's number, you can be sure of that the girl will give you her number and want to meet you later on.

The point is not fucking trying to prove each other wrong here. Its to help each other and how much did that post help anyone? This is me, this is how I do things. Welcome to my realm, bitch!

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Stetson u are an amateur who just happened to stumble across a few PUA books....

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Reo you are afraid of him or me fucking your girlfriend and making her dump you.

Stetson, so you befriend, neg switch from A to C in 5 minutes. How do you do that, please sketch a dialogue and answer the other questions.

I am asking because a potential boyfriend might still smell the rat from the get-go.

PS: Don't defend yourself, Reo is afraid, he won't do any harm to you.

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If all u got from what i said is that I'm scared your going to steal my girl u truly are an amateur too....I'm trying to help u to not get your monkey assed kicked and not waste valuable time....the question your asking is a fantasy and your only listening to the unrealistic answers which relate to your fantasy

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Reo stop proving me right.

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So Reo, what you are basically saying is that number closing a target who haves a boyfriend is impossible? After calling me an amateur of course.

Respect.

You have misunderstood me. Befriend with the boyfriend, make him seem like a beta-male. Throw negs to the target. Change more of your attention to the target and #-close. Thats how it goes basically.

I don't use MM phases... But what I do know is that you don't get at all to C yet. C requires isolating, which is impossible if shes alone with her boyfriend. Just get the number, use the 1-2 days before call rule, and start gaming her all the way from the beginning.
Hehehehe Isn't that where we all start from? And you didn't, interesting.

Why not stop discouraging people from trying.

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Give me an opener to open the guy.

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