How do you approach and game a girl differently when her boyfriend/protector is next to her?

Don't state your moral views.

Befriend first with the boyfriend and make him seem like a beta-male. Just you being more alpha than the boyfriend is enough anyway.

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Fair enough. Sounds like a plan.

Having approached the boyfriend, he always smelt the rat.

Which mindset and opener do you suggest to use on the boyfriend?

Opener to the male could be anything from football to an opinion opener.
Just walk in with a feeling of "I am the man"

Remember, negs to the target while disarming the boyfriend with chitchat.
Though isolating might get hard if its a 2-set of a boyfriend and a girl.

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You could build off of this advice...

Neg her while getting him to agree. Him laughing at her jokes might make her like HIM LESS because he's laughing and not defending....

This phrase conveys nothing to me. Please share a few fieldtested lines I could start from.
Isolation is what I want to do.

You mean that I am negging her to make him laugh about his girlfriend? Can you sketch a dialogue showing one way of how I can do that?

Any boyfriend isnt going to fall for that. He'd be shooting himself in the foot by laughing continuously...

Its pretty dam impossible to get a close with her boyf beside her, even mPUA dont try it. You have to isolate, which is hard in itself.

Pen1987, there are other people who want to learn. Please delete your destructive post.

Are you joking? Dude its not destructive, its honesty. Thats the fact of the matter, there is no personal insults thrown in there, d'fuck. I'm telling you its pretty dam diffucult because it IS. I'm telling you if you COULD do it, you'd need to ISOLATE. I'm telling you isolating her after youve befriended the boyf (who will see youre smooth and perceive you a threat in SOME manner after that, even if he likes you) will be DIFFICULT. I'm telling you mPUA's rarely attempt it. I'm telling you they dont do it because its disrespectful. I'm telling you to fuck off with the 'delete that its destructive' comment because it was anything but. It was a constructive comment. I was advising you honestly...

Isolating ain't hard in itself.

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Stetson, how do you isolate when the protector is listening?

Let me expand my statement: Depends on the obstacles and the enviroment.
I don't isolate if she haves a boyfriend there. I just pick her number right infront of her *cough* "protector".

The odds are that the boyfriend gets really jealous and starts a huge hassle after I'm gone, which will only make the girl want to date me more.


But I don't like to destroy couples.

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So you run game as if he wasn't there?

I like that "I just pick her number right infront of him" action. I am going to do that. Even if the numberclose fails.

How do you call him mentally?

PS: Don't state your moral views.

The best time to start ignoring the boyfriend is usually when the girl starts to ignore him and speak with you, then after a while just #-close infront of her boyfriend and chat for a little bit after the #-close before leaving the set.

This can be done under 5 minutes, and should be done under 5 minutes, if you don't know why it should be like that, just ask .
Could you expand your question? You don't usually call the boyfriend...

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