Hello,

This is going to get complicated. I met a HB9 at a party a few weeks ago and since then we have been chating a bit and shes been over to my house a few times. We have good connection and I'm not hanging out with her just for a hookup, she could be a potential girlfriend... THE PROBLEM ... her sarcasm! Note: I know she is very into me (I've been told by numberouse people).

She has the worst sarcasm I've ever seen, everything I do is made fun of by her. Shes very good at destroying rapport, because of this during the duration of us hanging out I feel like I'm back to my old Average Frustraded Chump stages.

Heres a overview of our night: She comes over to my house, we lay in bed and watch TV for a few hours. Very little contact; some pinching, no laying in my arms, no "cuddling".

I'm scared to make a move on her because of her sarcasm. It wouldn't surprise me if she said EWW and moved to the other side of the bed (Shes cutthroat!). I'm helpless and it seems she controls the enviorment when shes over.

Note: I have no problem gamming most girls, I know much about speed seduction, Mystery Methon, Cocky Funny, and NLP. I know theres something that is meant to break girls like this.

Do I need to ice her out back? I'm scared this will get us no where.

So please, help me win this girl over!

One thing the sarcasm is could be a possible shit test. I can't see it being a defensive mechinism like it is with most girls since you have a rapport with her already. But what I would suggest is just be sarcastic right back, don't let her win any sarcasm battles.

I've tried to match her sarcasm, it just ends up with us making fun of eachother all night...

if you are afraid to lose her, you will never get her. think about that.


~Smile

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Whats wrong with making fun of eachother all night. I love harping on a girl all night when she harps back. It gets them more comfortable with you. Just never apologize for any comment you say.

I would probably wait untill the enxt time you both are watching tv and when she is sarcastic tell her if she keeps going you will beat her up ( in a funny way).

She will probably laugh at you ensue play fight then pin her down and kiss her. Ladies love this sort of thing from my experience just dont be too rough.

I'd just shun her shit test and do it my way.

Remember, YOU have HIGHER VALUE.

My opinion.

Dude im feeling you.

I think u sorta just have to put up with it for awhile and just neg back a little and do whatever u normaly do for a bit. But later on when shit slows down, and ur still busting on each other, if there is any momment when you two are close, like, she rests her head on ur lap or somthing, incorporate some hardcore push pull, make her think ur gunna make a move...hes gunna kiss me... nah he didnt do it... o here he goes hes gunna try and kiss me... DENIED u dont try and kiss her, do that for a good half hour.

Also try Style's evolution phase shift, ignore any sass she might say about it and just do it, dont mention pulling at her hair and then going for it, already have ur hand halfway up her neak before u mention that her hair getting pulled will feel good (Or around the same time, time it accordingly, use some common sence).

If that ends up being a mess which it shouldent if u do it right, but if u dont get off the ground on that one id suggest trying a routein like the 'Warmth Builder' and then try ur pass either there, or still wait a little and wrestle around if u can (Maybe fight over a pillow or somthing) pin her down, tickle her, get ur heads close then BAM! Kiss close.

If she's lying in bed with you there is only one reason for it. She wants it. If she passes a sarcastic comment, just look her straight in the eye and say, "enough is enough". Give her a big kiss and see what she has to say about that.

First of all: don't be scared. You got her interested in you; the hardest part is done.

I suggest you figure out some pre-rehearsed set of lines that will corral her into letting you kiss her. You know her best so try to imagine what her response will be to each question, and plan accordingly. You want to use the fewest questions possible, because the likelihood of her actually following along with the routine increases.

When you neg her she just negs right back, so you basically have to trick her into negging you into kissing her.

Example:

PUA: I know why you're so sarcastic all the time. You're worried that I might kiss you, and you're scared you won't be able to handle it.

Girl: Yeah, right. THAT'S the reason.

PUA: No, I'm serious. I think behind all that biting sarcasm, is a romantic, innocent girl whose emotions are going wild as we speak. (A neg; also hits her, because your direct confrontation and comments ARE probably making her feelings go hay-wire) And when you see me, you know I'm going to kiss you in a way no man has ever kissed you before.

Girl: (throws a neg at you, scoffing at your kissing ability)

PUA: Oh yeah? (Go in for the kiss)

The girl will probably throw another neg at you immediately after the kiss, aimed at how unimpressive your kiss was (since you hyped it). Instead of getting defensive or insulted, you say, "Yeah, you're right. I wasn't feeling it that time, either. We better do a re-take." Let the make out session commence.

Of course, you know the girl best. You'll probably come up with a much better "corral," but you get what I mean.

Are you sure? Cuz then you should know how to deal with shit tests (congruence tests).

You need some massive help with Inner Game. Go back to David Deangelo, but ignore all the crap he says about Cocky Funny and focus on the REALITY ALTERING SHIT that changes your BRAIN lol.

It's time to next this girl, dude. You'll do better next time...providing that you actually learned from this.

STOP SUPPLICATING IN YOUR HEAD.

just game up back in high school I would have bitches over and they would come in my room and after they touched my bed I would tell them the only rules of my house was if u touch my bed we had to have sex I had a king size water bed in a lil room lol they had no choice... look if she's at your house she's yours, just stop clownin is this the only girl your talking to or thinking about?? drop her for a bit she aint going no where trust me.

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I would say its a shit test, but you could just blast through it (without fear of rejection) and if she does deny, then ice her ass out.

SHit test or not, there is the possibility that she's damaged goods?! Abusive or neglectful fathers tend to forge cynical and derisive daughters, incapable of enjoying genuinely playful and joyous interaction. I'd say the nastyer you are, the better. Here's one for you... Set her up AND lead her to wher you want things to go all at once.
"Shimmering wit you have there... so... tell me why you feel like you act to so cynical, when you know you're here for more than a war of words? "
Or... just go Cave on her... considering that, unless your case of 1-itis is melting your will, you shouldn't be too terribly vexed by running her off for actually offering her a moment to behave like a human being and exhibit abit of vulnerability... ?

hard core faze out on the bitch - when you are watchin tv on bed and shes bein sarcastic - get up turn t.v off and ask her to leave got to get up for work etc... this will piss her off but give you higher value... dont push pull a little bit do it massively!!!

you`ll nail it soon....