Sry if not suppose to post here but I want to post this before I forgot it. I just waz reading some post once I read this one you need to read it to understand something in this post

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I started brainstorming and thought of this thing Im going to call it compound opener it might be called something else maybe idk. Anyway I like his opener with the story after it and thought why not have place in story to branch off to other opinion opener dealing with the orginal opener, and adding cold read and dhvs in the story, and qualification alot of other stuff. Alright right after
"She was all controlling and stuff she would tell him no you can’t go there or no you can’t go out with your friends." you can add another opinion opener like "Would guys ever be that controlling in a relationship." After that comeback to the orginal opener story and finish with a cold read or something or add to the 2nd opener. My head is basicly spinning with ideas right now. This is stuff you can do with out my idea I know but this might be a good thing ppl just starting out lik myself. The only bad thing Im think is that I lose interest cuz somewhat staying on same topic but you can all ways branch off to something else. I guess what I trying to say is maybe this can to used to accomplish all the stuff lik negging dhv and building attraction and ever thing else. I think its good because youll never run out of things to say just dont over do it. I talked long enough. critic and give feedback.

-BigLo

If you worry about trying to use openers or routines then you've already failed.

By you trying to memorise a routine or pattern you've instantly made the chick higher value than yourself or the prize that you have to win over.
Build some self-esteem / self-worth and stop with the routines shit.

We can go on and on about the canned material debate, and regardless of your preference, it plays an important part in pick up.

I dont agree with that lolwut08 routines are meant to lower her value so that its lower than your or something like that. Also there are many successful people that use routines.
Clancey is right it is very important part of pickup.

Man you guys are like brain washed muslims.
If your whole concept is that you need a routine to lower someones value then you must begin by presuming she automaticlly has higher value than yourself to begin with.
Another words you must view yourself as being an unattractive gimp if you feel the need for routines and scripts.

You should be increasing your own value and trying to help increase the value of the people around you, not trying to drag them down to your loser like status.

Man up.

Wow its no surprise that everything lolwut has posted is negative what a loser get a life buddy

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i need canned materials to be talkative. i have fairly low AA, but I just dont have any material growing in my head to control the convo.

guess it gets better with exp, but canned material is necessary to me.

there's nothing wrong with canned material. Think of your everyday interactions there's canned material everywhere ie what do you do for a living? where are you from?.... etc etc. The thing is though you're living life... don't rely too heavily on canned material or else you will become what style refers to as a social robot and consequently an unfulfilling life. However I use canned material all the time particularly in opening and attraction phases but I seem to go more off the cuff in comfort. Also don't use canned material that is incongruent to yourself.