Rose Opener - Success!



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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:05 pm 
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Last night I went to a bar in Philadelphia with a group of my guy and girl friends, on the way there was a guy standing in the street selling roses for a dollar a piece so I picked up 3 roses and put them in my back pocket and put my un-tucked shirt over them. I figured this would be a perfect opportunity to try out the rose opener.

When I walked in the club we all went to the bar and grabbed drinks, we sat talking for a little while when I saw a group of 3 girls and 2 guys at the other end of the bar. There was a HB 9,8, and 6, and the guys with them were definitely trying to be Alpha males. I could see that they were competing over attention of the group of girls. Across from the bar we were at was a couch with two guys just sitting there smoking cigarettes, looking bored and uninteresting. So I approached the set with my rose in hand and gave it to the HB9. The conversation went something like this:

ME: Excuse me miss, you see that guy in the blue button-up shirt over there on the couch. (Pointing his direction)

HB9: Yeah?

ME: He pulled me aside, gave me 20 bucks and asked me to give you this and tell you that you look gorgeous tonight. I think he is a little nervous, you should go talk to him. He seems like your type, you'd make a cute couple.

HB9: No way, he didn't do that!

ME: Okay I guess I'll go give him his rose back, hes going to be heart broken though. The least you can do is take it and give him a smile.

HB9: Are you screwing with me?

ME: You think I have time for that? What do I look like? Ashton Kutcher?

HB9: Haha, fine. I guess its nice of him.

ME: (Directed to her girlfriends) Shouldn't she go thank him? I bet you guys wish you got a rose from a stud like that.

HB8: Yeah go tell him how sweet he is.

HB9: No way! He gets a smile and a wave thats it.

She smiles and waves, the guy looks confused as hell.

ME: See, that wasn't that hard was it. You should really learn some manners. I can't believe you guys take her out, does she even cover her mouth when she sneezes?

HB 8 and 6: Hahaha! Your mean too!

ME: Me? No way! How about I buy everybody drinks with him money? I'm not so mean now am I?

HB8: Its not even your money! You are mean you took his money!

I hand the 20 to the HB8

ME: I'll take a Jack and Coke thank you. See? Manners!

HB8: Oh boy, your a charmer aren't you.

The two guys had been quiet and talking to each other until this point, one of them interrupted and introduced himself and his friend to me. I could tell this guy was going to try to out-Alpha me so I brainstormed real quick while he was being friendly.

wannabe Alpha1: Dude, you probably gave her that rose just to talk to her.

wannabe Alpha2: Yeah, hahha.

ME: Dude, thats a really nice shirt. My gay brother has it, it really brings out your eyes.

Silence. I turned my back to the two guys and began friendly chatting with the HB 6 and asked her how they all know each other. It turns out that one of the guys was HB8's brother and the other was going out with HB6. HB9 WAS FREE! I ran some more game on the set and signaled my buddy into the circle and introduced him.

He began to tell a story of our trip to Amsterdam this summer and how we took Acid and wound up on a trail to Germany. Only to find that on arrival we walked into the love parade in berlin where people walk around naked all day. I picked up and told the rest of the story to the HB8 and 9.

ME: How long have you two been friends? I bet no longer than a year.

HB8: We just met this year in college.

ME: Roomates?

HB9: Yeah! How'd you know.

ME: Your close, but I can tell it hasn't been for that long.

HB8: Wow, thats pretty good. Nice guess!

ME: Call it what you will. Listen, your time is up, I have to run I have some other people to attend to, it was nice meeting you. But I need to go dance, I mean thats what you guys came here for. Or do you expect to stand here and have me deliver roses to you all night.

I turned around without a proper introduction or goodbye. Right away I heard.

HB8: Jess(HB9). Follow him, he's cute!

I walked over to my friends quickly and grabbed the hands of two of the girls we came with and took them to the dance floor. I positioned myself between them and began dancing, the rest of my crew followed into the middle of the dance floor. I saw HB9 come to the edge of the floor, turn around and wave her friend in. They moved into the middle slowly and soon HB9 was right next to me, I grabbed her pulled her close and said:

ME: The rose was from me.

HB9: I was hoping so!

We danced for a few minutes then I asked her to go sit down somewhere. She said she wanted to leave and go eat. I told I know a secret sushi bar and I'd show her only if shes buying. She agreed. We walked there, kissed on the way, had sushi and came back to the club just as it was closing. I took her number and we parted. Called her today and we laughed about the rose and she said she is drying it on her wall.

So I guess it worked pretty well. She's coming over later today since my car is in the shop.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:10 pm 
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I love ur game bro, u seem to realy have it togther, but what would u have done if the girl went and talked to the guy u said gave u the rose....

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Good question, the guy I picked out was so far our of her league that I just banked on the fact that she wasn't even going to give him the time of day. He was the definition of an AFC, literally. By me negging her and telling her she should go over I just figured she wasn't going to. I'm not sure what I would have done if she did go over. Thats something I'm going to think about and get back to you guys on. Any suggestions guys?


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I guess this will make really clear what we were discussing in the Approach section about openers and the way you deliver them. The way a PUA does it and the way an AFC does it. In conclusion we can see that we can use any AFC opener (with some risks) but we can get a good outcome if we deliver it properly.

Back to the post; I think by doing the rose opener you have the risk of getting cut at the beginning , if she actually goes to talk to the guy. But I think by using something like: You should go there and talk to him. The most common response you will get is : NO way , Tell him to come over.

You can take it from here with; at least give him a smile. And your in.

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i love it dude. thats great game. :cheers:

only thing i wonder is if the AMOG took offence and wanted to fight what would you do?


but funny none the less.

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I'd laugh in his face and be fully prepared to defend myself, as one always should be, especially when stealing a woman from another man.


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Damn, that was smooth has hell. Way to go, Methuselah. 8)


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god damn it Methuselah, i read a couple of ur lay report and field report b4 and u r smooth as hell!! come to IOWA and teach me! lol


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MES you're a machine!

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Hmmmmmmmmmmm if she actually goes there to talk to the guy, you stay with her friends and when she returns all pissed, you put a smile and say :"Woooooooow I can't believe you've actually went there. you must be really romantic soul. The rose was from me of course, every girl would figure that out, but since you like to play like that I am happy that I have parked my carriage outside of the club"
Or something similar...


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