Hello everyone!

Just got home from my first night out in "PUA-mood". I've been going allot as long as I can remember, but tonight I went out with a different mindset and approach. The mindset and approach I've read about here, and in The Game. For the first time I went out without being hammered drunk (just had a few beers), and I went out with a really good wingman; a good friend of mine who really is one of those "naturals" who always get chicks without any tactics at all. We went with this place packed with posh milfs (being two youg guys, we thought this would be a cool place to try), not too nightclub-ish and not too bar-ish.

Ok, so the openings went really great (used simple lines like "have you met my friend?" and followed it up with "we were discussing if you were good looking or if it was just because we were far away, so we had to get closer to check.."), but after that we faced some problems. Hope you guys can help me out with these questions:

1. Got a really good connection with this not-very-hot chick (HB5), who had a gorgeous but shy friend (HB8). I got the HB5 to introduce me, and then kept talking to the HB5. Then we gave the HB5 some negs, and walked away. She then came after 2 times and apologized and wanted "a new start". My question is: when she is such an easy catch, and "all over us", how do I get the HB8 instead??

2. Ok, so we have this set of 3, and my friend is really hitting it off with one of them, how do I keep it going with the other two?

3. Sometimes we stopped and looked around to find some decent sets, how should we "look" when we stand like this? Maybe a weird questions, but I'm trying to avoid looking like an obvious scout or something.

4. How do I avoid getting into the normal "where are you from/what do you do" conversation? We have the opening, the set is listening, where do we go from here? What to tell/ask etc? This is actually where it really stopped all the time tonight. Where do we go when the set is opened? I found myself having their interest, then loosing my creativity, and started with "so, what do you do? do you like it? where are you from? do you like it here?", and it was pretty much gone.

5. My wingman was getting allot more attention than me I honestly don't believe he is better looking than me, but I think there must be something with his attitude or something that makes girls want him. He's always been like that, and he has a pretty easy time getting girls. How can I work with this? I mean, how can I stop all the attention to fall on him, or even better: how can we use his powers to help me?

6. Any good openers/negs/tactics for MILFs for two 22 year old guys?? (we found this place to be perfect to work on our game, so we will deff go back).

Hope anyone can help me answer these questions. All in all, it was a great night out, despite the fact that I'm now home with my laptop and not home with a hot and horny MILF At least there was some lessons learned, I guess.

Regards,
Methods

If you are opening and not getting interest, you are not DHVing. Also, when you negged the HB5, you negged the wrong person...you neg the target and befriend the obstacle. If the HB8 is shy, then try very light teasing.

Make the HB5 and HB8 your pivots, and use them to meet other girls at the place.

Stack your routines, and use DHV story telling or gambits to demonstrate higher value such as The lying game, compliance tests (perfect for kino), get her to talk about her. Mystery has a great line..."You're an attractive girl, but lets face it, beauty is common. I mean, take a look around you...lots of attractive women here. So what sets you apart from just another face in the crowd? Name me three unique qualities about yourself." That gambit actually gets her to qualify to you.

Ask her what she is passionate about and try to draw that out into a nice convo.

Don't forget to use light kino as well.

Thanks allot! Those are great tips. I actually tried the "what else do you got going for you except from looks? there's allot of pretty girls here..." It worked pretty well, but since I didn't say "name 3 qualifications" it kinda stopped when she pointed her head and said "my brains"..hehe.. I was like "well, OK then..", standing there like a total douche.

I appreciate the tips, man. Great!

Oh this one is also great.

Use a star point system. If she gives you an answer you like, give her a star. If she gives you an answer you don't care for..."Alright, you're back to square one with me..." but say this totally in a teasing manner. This is push/pull. Pretend to roll off too.

If she says, her "brain", thread on that. What about her brain? Oh she's smart, freakin great! Get on the topic of why she thinks she is smart. Then ask her how many 9's are there from one to hundred. There are twenty and the trick to this question is that there are two 9's in 99. If you count it out it goes like this:

9, 19, 29. 39, 49, 59, 69, 79, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99

most people will count it out to 19 but forget there are two 9's in 99.

If you don't like that topic of her brain, which I wouldn't either, just say, "Ok, you got one star out of 10, what else you got going for you?"

Get her to qualify something you can thread on. OTHER THAN HER LOOKS.