Just a quick question. How well known are most PUA routines and followings in terms of people that have been approached? Meaning like.. has it hit a point where women have heard certain openers over and over yet?

Yes, if you're in Southern California.

I've had conversations about what pickup lines girls have heard and I've heard a few PUA ones and things like 5 Lies, 5 question game, best friend's test, the cube. Not a big deal if you don't run routines yourself and just do natural game instead, it's actually a fun conversation.

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I'm in Southern Cali and I avoid all the known routines. The only one I use is when I get bumped

HB bumps me in crowded place

Illumin: Excuse you

HB: Oh, I'm sorry

Illumin: It's ok. there are better ways to start a conversation with me ya know. You could have just said hi.

It's short enough to where it doesn't assimilate in her mind as a routine and even if she tries to call me out I say "umm, who bumped into who? And you think I'M using a line? You're the one using the lame bumper routine."

That's the only known one I use.

oh wow.. I'm actually moving down south in a few months.. You cant use any of the routines out of The Game or Mystery Method?

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Yeah, I would avoid all Style, MM and C&F stuff. Those are the three most popular. I use DeAngelos bump only because it's kind of initiated by her but other than that it's all known stuff. Granted you'll find plenty of women who haven't heard it but you'll find plenty who have. I'd just avoid it all together. Develop your own.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! MY FAVORITE ROUTINE!!!!!!!!!!!

I can honestly say I've never tried to run it.

I took a couple of guys out one night and after 2 of the guys left a set, I took another guy in with me and we asked them what just went on, cause it was easy to tell that they weren't the least bit interested and more creeped out. Turned out that the one guy ran the cube and the other guy was doing some other cold reading routine and they both said that it was like being interagated. Being asked that many questions in a row, in the middle of a club, without a ton of comfort is just a bad choice in my opinion. If you plan on running the cube, leave it for a Day 2 (I was gonna say "or till you get her back to your place", but if you bring her home same night, it's already on).

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

running the cube in a loud club can be done even w/o tons of comfert. I love the cube bc every girl founds it very accurate. If its to long I mostly limit it to only the cube/ladder and horse and leave the rest out of it works like a charm

You have to frame it away from creepiness and boring/value-sucking interrogation before you start it. You gotta prepare for this shit if you wanna run an entire cold reading routine. I do this by telling them about those silly surveys that people post on Myspace bulletins or those personality reading tests on the internet (girls LOVE doing these so they get excited about what I'm going to say next - there's a reason why TD calls this stuff "chick crack"), and I also tell them that I'm a Psychology major (true fact) and that I know this real personality reading test called The Cube (true fact, it's made by a psychologist).

Of course, nothing "works" 100% of the time. Admittedly sometimes I get not too great responses with this, but over 90% of the time, I do.