Alright so here's the thing, whenever I meet a girl that I'm interested in, I feel like I am a possible candidate for her, but later on I end up getting put into that dreaded friend zone. What should I do to prevent myself from falling into that zone? Should I neg more? Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks!

Don't let her talk to you about her life issues. Escalate kino fairly quickly. Ive made this mistake way too many times. It is possible to get out of that zone but its a pain in the ass.

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how does the whole escalate kino work? what do you start by doing first, middle and the end? ( i know the end is sex but more specially, what goes in the beginning and the middle and the end)

Create a sexual frame with sexual state and escalate when there's a window. A "friend" is non-sexual. A "lover" is.

worm, I recommend looking up the DiCarlo Escalation Ladder for details on kino escalation. I think it's great.

^^^ way to many acronyms used in the two posts above for a reply ina newbie forum.


Basically when you meet a new woman you like dont let her start getting all emo with you and her end up telling you how good a listener you are... you do not want this type of compliment.

Start out by insulting her in a cocky way... your chatting to her, she says something and reply with 'ah youre cute, you remind me of that fish, whats his name nemo!... yeah, its probably your googley eyes' (say you do accidently get into the spot where she says 'youre a good listener' you shouldnt say anything like 'thanks' reply with 'yeah I know, thats why all these women want me'... in a jokey way, thats a bad example though because you shouldnt be in the friend zone to start with.)

Once you have nicely slagged her off (refered to as a 'neg') and got her laughing you should start touching her (refered to as 'kino')... start my touching the back of her arm as you speak to her, continue to neg her, touch the base of her back...

when she says something else cute slip your arm around her shoulder and say 'ah Nemo, your funny, I like that... your so cute if youre lucky I might be able to get over your googley eyes'... that sentence is telling her 1) you like her 'your cute - I like that' - translation 'I like you'

2) You are to good for her, she has to work for YOU as opposed to you seducing her 'I MIGHT be able to get over your googley eyes' - translation 'if shes good then you might reward her by letting her seduce you' but you also neg her (googley eyes) so shes not getting a higher value than you in terms of social value...

3) Build rapport - 'Nemo' this is your special word for her that no one else would understand, it bonds you two.

When she responds with negs or kino, like touching your arm then continue into comfort building... look that up on the main forum

ok I feel that I've now conquered this topic...

2 words...

Kino Escalation...

If you lay it down from the start that you're a touchy feely guy then you can get away with so much more... Girls generally dont have friends that they cuddle, sit on their knees, hold hands with etc etc

I always got stuck in LJBF then I started to Kino girls and that problem hasn't happend since, so I draw my conclusion from that, Kino Escalate and you cant go wrong.

Hope that helps.

if you use to much kino and dont take the next step she may get too comfortable and put you in the flirty-friend zone though also. Always escalate.

KINO!!!

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STOP BEING A LIL B***** AND USE KINO!!!!

Thanks for all the advice and suggestions guys...it's much appreciated!
I think I'll go check out DiCarlo Escalation Ladder...
do you think poking would be a good kino as well? For me it feels so awkward to shift into something I haven't done (i.e. touching the base of her back or her arm)..but I guess practice makes perfect?