Let's keep this simple and short since I just wrote a whole article on this topic but then had it deleted.

Simply put, I got girl's number. I call girl twice. Girl never answers. A week passes. I txt girl. Girl responds positively. Then I screwed up.

The txt convo below. Tell me what you think.

Me: hey, its <name>, give me a call.
Girl: Hey, I'll txt you back after work. sorry.
No response for 2 days.

Me: Hey, I said to call me not txt me dumbass. Are you always this attentive?

Hours pass
Girl: Attitude much?
Me: Um, I was expecting a better comeback than that. how bout we try starbucks TODAY and we can continue this o so intersting and pleasant convo there instead of racking up our phone bill. chow for now.
Girl: Lol, i want tryin to start a fight but im busy today.
Me: Busy? hah cancel ur plans, i'm much more interesting. Anyways i always love a good fight.
Girl: haha i hate fightinggg
Me: You want my honest opinion: I dont care. Lets go.
Girl: hahaa what r u talking about?

I dont respond for 2 days.

Txt back with this:
Me: Hey r u good at accepting compliments?
Girl: uh idk why?
Me: lol ur supposed to say yes. its part of a game.
Girl: lol ok then yes
Me: Sweet, so u compliment me first.

No reply... I worry. Maybe I seemed too needy. Looks like I was fishing for compliments. Minutes pass.

I respond with: "Ur thinking too hard. Dont listen to em."
Them referring to friends.

Now I havent gotten anything for hours and I fucked up.

Ur opinions/advice?

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seems like ur stuck on this chick!! aaaaaaaand i thought u insulted her a few times, so thats not a good start.......she cant compliment you if u didnt show her anything good about urself. Besides; u started the game, u start the compliments.....

other than that, You crashed and burned, so go get some beer to put out those flames......

I'd move on if i were u

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Dude, thanks for posting your convo. I'm going to tear it apart, but this is what will help you out, alright?

That being said, your game has improved since that first time I met you, so cheers to you!
okay, don't call a girl dumbass, haha. A neg is a backhanded compliment said with a smile, a tease, not a slap and a spit on the face.

Also, the authoritative, commanding tone ("I said") is good, but you have to show some light-hearted quality with that authority.
First of all, the girl didn't come over to your house, open the door, and punch you in the face. She responded with a text. She gave you a second chance.

Just a word of advice, never use "um." It connotates that you are being condescending to the other party. Like you think they are stupid. Don't do it. Not a neg, it's an insult. And it's not cute.

Also if you're going to say "chow" spell it correctly "Ciao." I'd make fun of a guy who messed that up and didn't intend to.
Okay, with the way this conversation has gone, I wouldn't have gone with a game that is as fishy as that one. Games are fine, but maybe something trivia or like math based... something that is a mind bender, not anything that could get you into hot waters... and PLEASE, don't make her think of one first, especially because how the convo had gone up to this point.

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the girl must be thinking your a psycho ;/

A quick question relating to girls and the whole phone/texting game, why do they always feel compelled to make you wait hours, days or even weeks before texting you back? I am aware of why PUA's would, as it puts you in control by making them wait, but do they do it for the same reason or what?

This is so true, girls have such tight natural game they can string AFCs along for weeks or months with texts. I think you have to adopt the same attitude as you do in the field - I'm the alpha male, there are plenty of other girls out there who WILL have sex with me so I frankly I don't give a fuck if this one girl responds or not - it's her loss.

Dude even though your trying to go for c&f you come across needy and angry.

I don't usually like to call but you can if you want.

With a text you know the girl got it and you don't have to worry about being caught off gaurd by a shit test.... so what do you say?

You wouldn't mind if she came along and saw you but you're not gonna sweat about it.

Say something like 'I'm going to *some area*. Come along for a starbucks if your free. x ' Even if she can't make it (usually not a problem) she will be interested in your nonchalence and will most likely say she would like to meet some other time. If not then delete her number.

If she says 'I can't make it for *whatever reason*' but still seems interested don't text back. Wait a couple days she will probably contact you. If not then send a similar text to the first one. If its successful good for you. If not, forget her.

Hope that helps.

ok first of about negging in text messages I think its best to establish neggs either on the phone or in persona and reiterate them in texts without body language at your disposal it is so easy for it to come of as an insult .. you can pull off allot more neggs in person.

Your first date choice doesn’t seem to good you should assess how much raporr you have with her and choose a date accordingly star bucks seems to much like asking a girl on a date AFC like especially if you don’t have that much raporr with her. Make t sound like she’s just tagging along some where for you to run an errand build raporr and then next time forget star bucks ... cook for her ...have her bring the chicken or whatever

great way to get to this cooking date my favorite lol is in person build allot of rapor kiss close or whatever and (iv been kiss closing allot and these **** keep getting me sick lol) "I’m really exited about the way your making me feel right now we have such a great connection, im free this weekend but after that my schedule get really hectic and I’m worried ill forget all about the connection we had tonight.................. number close and she suggest a date all in one works like a charm
HB aw please forget about me
ME ill try
HB I’m free Saturday ( last time i used it )
ME ok ill try i really want to see you again
HB me to
ME give her my phone
some times you can take the girl home that night just by creating a sence of ergency while maintaining your higher status

situation.....
hb is into me....strings me along with txt
then blows off our day 2, she calls but i freeze her out.
How much longer should i wait before responding

this has become a sticking point for me as well. i am determined to figure out what we are doing wrong and how to fix it,

Texting game is tricky because there are times you are alpha and the female will play along but then the convo ends on an open note.

My best advice to you with the texting game is always be playful initially, always start your first text with a playful comment never a question.

Long gone are the days I asked 'what's up?' Now, it's just a vibe that indirectly says my day is going well and I'm having a great time (obviously not in those words) If a girl is interested she'll text back.

Also, as other posters stated you reacted far too harshly. The girl was giving you a shit test and you fell for it.

Do a role reversal here. Pretend that there's a chick that's really interested in you and is just completely blatant about wanting to fuck you. Don't you become suspicious? I do. When a female throws herself at you she suddenly becomes less attractive. This is the image you're painting of yourself when you text her and tell her to give you a call. It comes off as needy. Try starting with a neg or a joke. This worked for me today:

For my first text i sent this : "Stop texting me"

You don't want her to feel like she owes you something. Just treat her like a little sister. Give her a hard time. Be vague so you have wiggle room.
Again, you're coming off as needy. You haven't established the rapport to give her commands, especially when she didn't even respond to your last one. Try sending her a bogus message - as if you were trying to send it to another female. Example:

"Ok so I'll meet you at the Ice cream place then"

She responds: "what?"

You respond: "sorry - wrong sarah :0"
Make her feel like she's not making sense. Example:

"huh?"
Lose the word Um. Don't talk in first person. Lose the Caps on "TODAY" and rephrase accordingly:

"Touche. Starbucks?"

The statement is to the point and conveys confidence. Also passes the shit test in a similar way as the word "respect" like Ali G does it.


You're trying to qualify to her by convincing her you're interesting. That's DLV. Try a response like this:

"Well. Them's fightin' words!"
Forget this whole routine here. It doesn't sound interesting. It sounds like work. Stop talking to this chick. Move on and keep your chin up.

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"Wait, so let me get this straight. One really big meal a day then we go to sleep, no paper towels but a little bit of bread because we're not Nazis and as many popsicles as we want."

Do a role reversal here. Pretend that there's a chick that's really interested in you and is just completely blatant about wanting to fuck you. Don't you become suspicious? I do. When a female throws herself at you she suddenly becomes less attractive. This is the image you're painting of yourself when you text her and tell her to give you a call. It comes off as needy. Try starting with a neg or a joke. This worked for me today:

For my first text i sent this : "Stop texting me"

You don't want her to feel like she owes you something. Just treat her like a little sister. Give her a hard time. Be vague so you have wiggle room.
Again, you're coming off as needy. You haven't established the rapport to give her commands, especially when she didn't even respond to your last one. Try sending her a bogus message - as if you were trying to send it to another female. Example:

"Ok so I'll meet you at the Ice cream place then"

She responds: "what?"

You respond: "sorry - wrong sarah :0"
Make her feel like she's not making sense. Example:

"huh?"
Lose the word Um. Don't talk in first person. Lose the Caps on "TODAY" and rephrase accordingly:

"Touche. Starbucks?"

The statement is to the point and conveys confidence. Also passes the shit test in a similar way as the word "respect" like Ali G does it.


You're trying to qualify to her by convincing her you're interesting. That's DLV. Try a response like this:

"Well. Them's fightin' words!"
Forget this whole routine here. It doesn't sound interesting. It sounds like work. Stop talking to this chick. Move on and keep your chin up.

CPT

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"Wait, so let me get this straight. One really big meal a day then we go to sleep, no paper towels but a little bit of bread because we're not Nazis and as many popsicles as we want."

you presented yourself as needy by texting her so many times. and with the C&F attempts, you need to work on the wording a bit more, and maybe think about what you're saying. the good thing about texts is you can take your time to think of what you're saying. so before you hit send or reply just read over what you text'd. make sure if youre going for a C&F that it is C&F not just being a jerk or arrogant. Also with texts/IM/Email C&F may be interpreted wrong at the other end so you need to be careful.

Goodluck

I found out that texting is not the best option. (see situation in my recent posts)

Its better to call her after some days and start with some funny story or question. Then say you go to someplace on day x. After you met some friends the hour before (so that you had a reason to be there and that you did not travelled the whole way just to see her)

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