So I've been talking to my friend's ex-girlfriend a lot lately. She is sending me mixed signals and I have no idea what she wants. Friends or more...?

I got her number when I went to eat where she works.

My ex-girlfriend happens to be one of her close friend's close friend. So... Its a very difficult situation.


This month, she went on vacation for 10 days to Miami. One night she called me and we talked on the phone for about an hour. We talked about everything imaginable... and she completely spilled her guts to me about how her ex-boyfriend hit her and threatened to kill her a few weeks ago. She said I'm only the second person that she's told, so she trusts me. She told me what her goals in life were and things like that. Since I already asked her to go to a concert with me (which is next week!) she told me that I should go to another one with her 3 days after that.

So the day she gets back from Miami she calls me and says "Aren't you gonna hang out with me?! I just got back." So I meet her and her friend at the fair. I didn't really talk to her that much because she was around her friend the whole time and I was talking to some people that I know. She kept hovering around me and walking up next to me but not really saying anything. She eventually left and told me to call her when I was leaving. I called her and told her that I'm going to a party and she should come. She said that she was tired from driving all night from Miami and she said "We will do whatever you want tomorrow."

So tomorrow came and she ended up having to work. She txt msg me and said "i ended up having to work. dan was here..."

[Dan is my sisters boyfriend who I talked to about her all the time. He knows I'm in love with her. He was drunk and he was saying things to her that I didn't want him to say about me.... Like asking her why she doesn't hook up with me, etc,..]

So I text message her back saying "he's drunk. im going to the gym, i'll call you later"

I call her later and she doesn't answer. I wait a few hours then I text message her and she responds. I wait a few more hours then I call her again and she doesn't answer. I called her again the next day(today) at about 9:00 PM and she didn't answer...

That's the last I've heard from her.... the concert is next week and I really want her to not ditch me.


PS: I can tell by the way she looks at me and talks to me that she wants me. I think she is scared of her ex-boyfriend and my ex-girlfriend since we're all basically part of the same circle of friends. I would take a bullet for this girl and she deserves so much more than the piece of shit she was with... and yes... I have "one-itis" I want her as my girlfriend, not just a one night stand.


Any suggestions other than waiting for her to call me? And how long do I wait until I contact her again without seeming like a stalker/weirdo?


edit: I have several different ways of contacting her also, which one is best?:

-Myspace
-Calling
-Texting (should i try this----> at-the-push-of-a-button-vt152.html )
-Dropping by the bar she works at
-Talking to her best friend (this friend thinks im the nicest guy in the world, but i've never talked to her about the girl I want)

Well Dan is a complete moron!!
He helped you lose out...even though you WERE on your way out!
You have forgotten why PUA techniques work! They show value, mystery and the old hard to get!
You showing none of the above ,so she has lost interest!!!
Hmmm how to win her back....STOP CALLING HER!!!INFACT STOP CONTACT!!!
you text message her one last time saying''You been trying to call her ...and when she is done playing hard to get and HIGH maintenance
you might consider the concert!

And under no circumstances do you contact her again!

You become a man now and text that!
You leave the ball in her court and she has to chase you.... and you dont respond to the 1st text message , you wait for the second one!

Why?? you ask because then you are mysterious , hard to get and have value...get it??

She does the chasing and you reap ther benefits!

If she does not get back to you twice before the concert you take someone else and let it get back to her ....creating jealously and insecurtity.....kinda like a NEG!!

Now stop being an idiot and text the stupid HB!

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I am to be the next best thing in south africa

ok lol, i have nothing to lose. here i go....txting now!

and yes, dan is a moron. i punched him several times the next day when i saw him


i'll keep you updated with my situation






OH SHIT SHE ALREADY RESPONDED like 10 SECONDS AFTER I SENT IT LOL:

she says "wat r u talkin about"

just received 2nd txt message from her:



"I've been working I dont know what you want me to do. I told you i didnt want nothing like that right now. And I didnt ask you to take me to theat concert. I was going cuz u wanted me to"


lol wtf do i do now... i'm clueless.

Sorry mate i was out!!
But well done you got the relpy and she is trying hard to make up for it!\
Well done for waiting for the second text message...
How to take it form here is your choice
But keep the contact as text message , some notes on what to do? keep your text messages shorter than hers if possible and when the timing is right make her wait for your replies ??
Please let me know how it went ....but be careful that she might cancel on the day for the concert?

just a feeling but she looks like the type of girl that needs her ass kicked once in awhile

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Sorry mate i know im supposed to leave you to learn the hard way but i just cant help it

Do you understand why you had to wait for the second text message?
Also something i forgot to tell you when you got the second one you should reply as quicly as possible ...understand why???

If she gets stuck up agian i want you to accuse her of being childish and that you thought you guys were friends and that you think of her as a little bratty sister now ???

This will work because now she will be thinking she misinterpreted the situation and most importantly she will doubt herself and start thinking of why dont you like her? was Dan wrong? ect ect ect do you understand that??????

you need to try understand the principals so when shit like this gets out of hand you know how to play it

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She never told me that she didn't want anything like that with me.

I need to stick that fact in her face and then say that now I think of her as a little sister... I guess. I would still like her to go to the concert with me... as friends.

I fail at trying to be a PUA.

I would rather have this girl as a friend (because she's been one of my best friends lately) than nothing.

So I ended up saying to her that I didn't know how she felt about us so I wanted to find out. I actually txt her a few more times and I asked her if it would be ok if I had a beer where she works. She said yes.

So I walk in and she sorta ignores me for the first few minutes...

Asks what I want to drink, gets it, then walks away....

A few minutes pass and she comes to sit by me... I told her that I thought that she seemed like she wanted to be more than friends. I apologized for the somewhat rude text message. She kept saying that she didn't want to be anything with me because it wouldn't be worth the drama from her ex-boyfriend (one of my friends) and my ex-girlfriend (one of her friends). She said she was planning on going to the concert. We talked about other random crap for awhile too and she told me to call her later.

Her hot waitress friends were smiling at me as they walked past too... and I noticed the HB and the HBs waitress friends looking at me and talking about me... I think it was good talking too. blah.

We actually talked for 15 minutes while she was working and I left in a good mood and I didn't feel weird about it.

I guess we'll be friends until she realizes that it will be worth the drama to be with me. Until then... I shall find some hot bitches. I will try again another day...

Yeah. I let her control me. I fail. I actually didn't see Mrwiggles post until after I did all my whiny bitch shit to her. I must have skipped over them somehow... God, I need more self-control.



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Any suggestions for the night of the concert? Or have I fucked up beyond belief.... is there any light at the end of the tunnel....I've thought about the cube, magic, etc,.. but I don't know what to do in a touchy situation like this.

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My Aunt is leaving for a week a few days after the concert... she has horse, a large piece of property with trails, and four-wheelers. That would be the perfect adventurous place to take her... but how do I get her there...hmmm...

breaking news lol:


So i was bored last night just lookin at all my text messages and stuff. i looked at the one that i thought i sent dan after he called me drunk from her work a few days ago. he wouldnt answer his phone after he told me that he was at her work and she was there so i sent him a txt msg that said "wtf r u doin u dumb ******"


so LAST NIGHT i discovered that he never received that message because i sent it to the girl instead of him by mistake. that's probably why she didn't call me for a long time.


wow

LOL
You are a dumb fuck
As for failing as a PUA.... you have not!!!
You already thinking like one
thinking about taking her to an adventuriuos place
Her friends were checking you out means she was talking about you my man and saying good shit before you got there like before you got there that night understand
You could always be a player and tell her to invite one of her cute friends that she works with along creating competition for her and if she does not bring one you can tease her and say ''hey thought we friends ... why do you want me all to yourselve:P''
This should be done in a cocky funny way and then you be nice and say its okay you like my little sister now its gonna be great i call this a reverse NEg but it still works
As for the text message you sent Dan dont ever bring it up...let her let it go for herself

She likes you man, dont stress you just have to help her get over herself by playing hard to get ...gently! She WILL make a move at the concert its a definite and dont bring up the adventurous day thing until after the concerte .....never make to many arrangements! alway one step at a time whilst during the courting phase my man

Besides you not being a PUA here you being a player you taking it from the PUA to the next phase-courtship....man im gonna get alot of slack from the other PUA's for what i just typed
But let her break the physical contact barrier first, trust me the more she makes the moves the more she will get over herself , however its your job as a PUA to help her do that! Be a player by keeping yourself in check - dont break my rules you will GET HER !!!

I was not wrong about the text messages was I ???

Just play it cool
when is the concert ?? friday?

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The concert is next tuesday... she took off work for it and we've had it planned for like a month. Yesterday when I left the bar she said "call me later." So I'm not gonna call her for a few days and see what happens. Usually when I don't call her, she will call me and be like "what are u doing?"

I'll keep ya updated thx ^_^

Just remember, you need kino escilation or else you will be LJBFed.

LJBFing a girl is actually a good stratagy because it masks your intentions, and makes the girl wonder "What am I doing wrong to make him not want to fuck me?" Remember, girls have sex for validation (not all the time). I'm sure you can see where this goes.

~Kurent

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this is the most fucked up situation in my life

its sorta fun though, i think thats why me and her keep talking... its thrilling.

WIGGLES! lol




i am literally sititng at work listening to music and doing nothing else (yes, i love my job).

just sent her a txt msg

anyway the txt msg said "whats up lil sis im at work listening to music"

she replies 20-30mins later with "dont be like that, im at the pool"


she doesn't like me calling her sis hahha neg neg neg

my phone is going dead too~ i need more game!

i want to ask her to go to my friends boyfriends concert thursday night too... yes? no? how? there's lots of girls there that think im "so cute" and stuff too so it will be competition for her even though i wouldnt touch the other girls with a 10 foot pole. hit me back ASAP mr. wigglez

I suposse that you post your "problem" here because you want some feedback right?
Listen, from my point of view, you are trying too hard, its shows a lot, definitely one-itis is screwing your game.
If she complains that dont want to be with you because of all the possible drama, is because she is not enough atracted to you, you need to work more. You are seeing her as the prize, from a scarcity point of view.
If you want to pick up some of the other HB that work with her fine! do it, but because you want that, not to make her jealous, dont make her the center of your world.
If your situation continues like this you probably are going to end in LJBF.
Oh, one more thing, what is that crap that you said about prefer being his friend before losing her?? come on dude, even you dont believe that...
Just some thoughts, good luck

ICE