yesterday me and a friend went to the mall to try openers out... and basically he introduced me to this amazing opener where i ended up meeting and getting around 4 girls very interested right off the bat (one of them being a very sexy woman in her 20's, and i'm not even 18 ), so without further ado...
at first eye contact with a LONE beautiful woman (important that it is ONE woman as a group will just call you scum and walk away), pause and face her
then walk in slowly and confidently, making sure never to break the initial eye contact
then walk in until a few feet away
then pause, NEVER BREAKING eye contact!!! adds to tension
then say, in a dead-serious fashion, "You (pause) are (pause) the most beautiful girl I have ever seen. (Pause) What's your name?"
*get name*
*introduce yourself*
and take it from there. you can do many things at this point, such as just eject and say goodbye, or go for a conversation with this new girl who is enchanted with you. if you maintain congruency with the approach, you are most likely IN, unless, of course, the girl is an icy bitch or madly in love with someone else, in that case be grateful that she weeded herself out of your life and won't be wasting any more of your time. why does this work, you ask? why would such a disgustingly supplicative line that you would expect to have a snowball's chance in hell work wonders with women? the trick is in the DELIVERY. you gotta DELIVER the approach with the rock-solid confidence and sincerity of james bond for it to work, because the approach is not meant to tell a girl that you think she is hot as tits, it is meant to nonverbally and instantly display all the qualities an ultra-attractive guy has.
so the revelation i had was that it doesn't matter WHAT you say to them hoes as much as it matters HOW you say it.
doubt that this works? then try it out and post your results!

Wow really..

I have no doubt in my mind that this works, although what I do is a bit different - you can see details of my methodology in my signature. I sometimes tell a girl that there is just something about her and if I didn't stop to talk to her I'd be kicking myself. That particular example actually works if she has a friend with her aswell, you just have to acknowledge her hotness aswell but tell her you have a soft spot for blondes, or brunettes, whatever suits the scenario. It might work for larger groups aswell but I've only used it on single girls and pairs.

If you want to stop being creepy (the other post), you shouldn't do stuff like this for several reasons.

First off, staring in the eyes can be very intimidating and can very easily make a persons feel uncomfortable. Then you walk toward her while staring her in the eye??? WTF are you a zombie??? Then all those pauses in there, she might think you are slow or maybe mentally challenged. Think about it, dogs eye their enemies down before they fight; boxers stand real close and make intimidating eye contact during weigh-ins. You should look into a girls eyes a maximum of 3 seconds before you approach them.

Next, telling someone they are the most beautiful person you've every seen is not a very bright idea. She will probably think you are very wierd/ or even creepy and will instantly shutdown. That is not an appropriate opener as it will probably inflate her self-esteem too much. The only thing you could really say as a neg after that would be "if only you were a little smarter...." but if she has a good personality and is smart, and you already called her the most beautiful women you have seen; how could you neg her?

You are right when you state how important delivery is, but the opener is horrible IMO. I will not field test it and don't think other people should either. If you want to try it be my guest, but I wouldn't wish that opener upon my worset enemy.

Sorry I was so harsh, but that sort of my nature...

-Smarts

I think this is much more appropriate. Also I bet you dont stare her down when you approach...

wow thanks for the feedback dalziel and smarts! i didn't realize that that opener could be as creepy as smarts mentioned...and yea i don't literally stare them down like a zombie lol! it's hard to explain, but its pretty much locking eye contact and casually walking in...whateva, i'm sure you guys know what i'm talking about
it sounds like you know what you are talking about smarts, what kind of openers do you use or would recommend?

Personally, I like situational openers. They seem a lot less planned and flow naturally. I only VERY RARELY go in with openers that are canned because of the chance that they have heard it before. And the ones I do use I constructed myself so I know no-one else has used them before.

Its sort of hard to think of a situational opener off the top of my head just because they depend on the setting and situation. Heres the best I could think of..

Lets say your in a Barnes and Nobel (bookstore): You notice a girl looking through some magazine at the stand.
Me: What magazine are you looking at there?
HB: Oh, Im reading Time...
Me: Wow, based on your looks I didn't think you would be interested in that stuff.
.... Just say something to get her engaged really and be genuine

Me: Whatcha reading there?
HB: Me? Seventeen (or some other superficial girls magazine)
Me: You look like you would read that "stuff"? (say this half sarcastic and half jokingly. MAKE SURE YOU SMILE)
She will then probably try to defend why she is reading that etc.. and just go from there.

The cool thing about book stores is they often times have coffee shops in there so if you really hit it off and you feel confident you could have an instant date, if not act like you have somewhere to go...

Hope that helps

_Smarts

Well, eye contact is important as it displays dominance. Typically speaking, if you make eye contact with a woman and you look away first, it shows that you're intimidated by her or that you don't find her attractive. Besides, most women don't lock eye contact for more than a few seconds anyway so you're rarely in a situation in which you're "staring her down". So in a way you're right, but as long as you smile and look friendly it isn't threatening or creepy.

telling her she's beautiful is totally AFC, and as usual, is a DLV. introduce yourself and make it seem like she is one that needs to catch your attention...

but the eye contact is a good start. 3 second rule, at least she won't be expecting you to approach and seems like you got that down, which is really important, so good for you man.

... but seriously, none of that beautiful stuff until you've at least boned her, ha ha.

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Love John

"The cure for one-itis, PUAs like to say, is to go out and have sex with a dozen other girls- and then see if this flower is still so special." Style

Come on now, you just contradicted yourself a little. She already caught your attention otherwise you wouldn't have started talking to her... I know what you're talking about, but you should provide an example to clarify what you mean to avoid confusion. As for telling her she's beautiful, it depends on how you say it. If you're confident and assertive, and do it in a fun way as if to say you acknowledge her hotness but you don't care about it, it works very well indeed.

you're right, all i'm sayin is that an hb is used to being called beautiful and isn't really surprised to hear someone say that to her. but yeah, confidence is everything and i suppose with the right amount of confidence you could say anything...

but i meant something like instead of saying "she's beautiful"

say something like:

'hey, i gotta know something, it could be a life or death situation, and i need your advice!!! is it more important to brush or floss first???'

i know, i know, overused but i still like that opener. just use something that conveys that you're not needy and make her curious as to why she's not winning you over the way she usually does (i.e. just being hot) and have her earn your admiration.

plus, don't be afraid to approach groups of women, that's the point of why women travel in packs. it's to keep men of low self value away, and if you can enter the group and keep them entertained and make them laugh, that is always a big DHV.

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Love John

"The cure for one-itis, PUAs like to say, is to go out and have sex with a dozen other girls- and then see if this flower is still so special." Style

We all know that you can practically say ANYTHING if you say it the right way with the tone, right body language, eye contact, UBER confidence, etc. If she thinks she could be looking at the real life James Bond you can say "Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear" and she'll at least hear what else you have to say. So the OP will have some success with that if all other things are right.

That being said, what we as PUA's are figuring out is what is the MOST EFFECTIVE thing to say all the while having the right body language, tone, etc, and what the OP said is NOT the right thing. It's way too direct and cannot be possibly construed as any form of honesty. There are three billion women on this planet and no amount of eye contact can make a woman believe that you think she's hotter than 299,999,999 of them. Dishonesty is the #1 turnoff of all women and starting off with blatant dishonesty isn't a good thing.

What is with all this negativity? all this limiting beliefs! Depending if your in state/ your congruent 100% with it/you have everything in check you can open with anything; pretty much all the gurus affirm this. Jeffy, instructor for RSD once open a chick by licking her face, and it worked! You guys also have to realize that there different types of pua methods, not just the MM. I am not dissing the MM, in fact thats the one I got started on and I still use it mix with other things. What I'm trying to say everyone is different therefore they have the opportunity to choose what type of method fits them best. Not one is better than the other, that is all relative to peoples perceptions. So if this guy and others, are totally congruent with this direct opener then it'll work for them, if you guys are not then nope. Now as far as saying its one of the best openers, once again relative to peoples perceptions

Starting off with a self devalueing compliment shes heard a zillion and a half times? Must be one hell of a delivery involved. You want us to test and see if confidence is everything even if you say something DLV> Interesting.

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