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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:36 am 
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I'm on vacation in Israel and it is quite interesting. The girls here are a lot tougher than the states, but they also tend to be smarter (turn on; I hate dumb bitches). I have had some difficulties with the language barrier, but considering that I just started thinking like a PUA when I go out, I think I've been doing alright.

I've been able to number close every nearly every set that I've gotten into A2 with (the few others had Bf's or I didn't compensate well enough for the language barrier). I pulled from an HB6.5 three nights ago and one from from an HB7 two nights ago. For the latter, I ran the camera routine and caught her by surprise and pulled her in for a little peck (caught on her iPhone) a little while after.

I texted them both yesterday. Girl number one is showing a lot of attention. Number two didn't answer, but it was just a smart-ass text to keep me in her mind. "Hey, I hope your smiling. If not, just think of me". I ended up calling her today (as I had invited myself to go out tonight to her tonight when I got her number), she didn't answer, but texted me later apologizing and saying she was sleeping and would catch me later, I didn't hear from her.

Last night, my bro and I met up with his friends (one who is also new to the community) in Tel Aviv (Israel's Miami) for some all-night festival. After some looking around, we settled down at a locals' bar. It was a beat scene at first, I tried to open a set, but the noise, positioning and language barrier were greater than may abilities. Just when we were going to leave, a two set HB9 + HB6) walked in and I was encouraged to approach them, so I did.

I used a situational opener (which I like to do when possible):

Me: Hey, check out those two over there (pointing at this nasty couple who'd been practically fucking on their bar stools throughout the night. My friends and I are taking bets on how long before they need to come up again for air.

Them: *Laughs* positive responses... bla bla bla... - two mins of small talk- "come sit with us".

Money, I hit it off great with HB9 (24, Moroccan decent, overall awesome package) no need to neg or anything. After a couple hours, TONS of kino, and no opportunity to k-close (based upon my opener and that HB6 was her best friend and it was supposed to be their girls' night ie: couldn't bounce)/ I even isolated her outside a couple of times, but no "moments". I tried the camera routine, but it was too dark and neither of us had flashes on our phones. In retrospect, Mystery's "do you want to kiss me" would have been appropriate.

I decided to try and go back to her place at the end of the night, so during outing number 2, I told her my friends had left without me (hoping to play off of that later on). It turned out she was staying over at her friend's place (I found this out right before we parted ways). Luckily, I played it off before it got awkward and told them to go get some sleep and maybe I'd see her tomorrow. They were concerned (especially HB9) about me being alone in the city all night, but I assured them that I would be fine. After more worrying on their part and HB6 apologising for not having a guest bed, I decided to number close (although I had planned to all along, regardless of kiss, fuck, etc.). I told HB9 not to worry, "whats your number, I'll call you later to let you know that I'm alive". Successful number close, but not what it should have been.

I am going to try and arrange a day 2 with her next week. I already have the numbers of another HB9 and an HB7 from my flight in; they also live in Tel Aviv. The HB9 was a flight attendant sitting across from me (25, Russian-Israeli, all around awesome package) and the HB7 was in line with me to board and then a few rows ahead (21, great body - B face, some kind of European decent; still in the IDF). HB9 (flight attendant) said to call her on Monday to make plans and HB7 told me she has a crazy schedule, so to call her the day of if I want to see her. So if I'm lucky and on my game, I might spend a night or two at a couple different houses.

Today, the HB6.5 invited my bro (who her friend seemed to like) and myself out to some bar for a day two (unfortunately, they were going with a bunch of girls for their friend's birthday; good for report etc, bad for F-closing). Neither of us has gotten almost any sleep the past couple days, so I for one was not on my A-game. I couldn't get the attraction heated up past "warming": They ended up giving us a ride home; while they inferred that wanted to come in, they had to take their other friends home.

That's the last few days for me. Any constructive criticism etc. would be greatly appreciated.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:39 am 
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I told her my friends had left without me
I wouldn't advise saying this, its a major DLV, if she wanted you to go back to hers she would suggest even if your friends were still around.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:26 pm 
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Agreed, let me rephrase for a more specific and accurate representation of what I said.

I told them to leave without me earlier on in the night, she was present for this. When they called me to find out how it was going (two hours later), I told her they were trashed and had stumbled back home.

Is that still DLV? I hadn't really thought of it that way.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:51 pm 
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First of all: your opener is gold. I love it!

I have some thoughts on the kclose.. The thing with her saying things about girls night out, and so on, might either have been a shit test or just something to defend her against feeling like a slut. Mystery's "Would you like to kiss me?", would have been a safe choice, but taking her hand, slowly pulling her towards you, putting your hand on your shoulder, staring into her eyes and kissing her, would have been more alpha. If you've seen The Pick Up Artist, you may have seen the C-movement. Basically, it means stroking your fingers from the top of her head, down her cheek and down to her chin, then slowly pulling her head towards yours and kissing her. It hasn't failed me once.

But still, great job on the girls!!


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:00 pm 
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Yeah, I like that, thanks. I don't think it was a shit test, there were already a couple "moments" (right time, wrong place) previously. I'm beginning to think maybe I should have number closed earlier on and setup for a day two.

Any other thoughts on that night or regarding the other stuff?

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