I'm curious and I want to see what you guys actually open a set with when you are talking.

Me personally, I like this one:

Me: "I need a girl's opinion on this. Who lies more? Girls or Guys?"
HB: Blah...

and continue from there.

holy **** I hope you dont actually use that line. It been so overused that Im sure that most guys on this site cringe at the site of it...bc I do!

If your just getting started, opinion openers are not bad, but make them up yourself and come up with something you are actually interested in. Girls can smell a lack of interest from a mile away!

I would be more inclined to use "Nice shoes, wanna f*ck" rather than the 'who lies more opener'

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well im in High School, so it will work most of the time because the girls aren't experienced yet and the shields will be low.

what openers do you suggest?

I like the drug dealer opener myself.

my personal favorite is one I use for girls who go around to bars promoting beer/ liquer. I call it the redbull opener.

When the girls, who are usually hot as hell, come around and offer you whatever it is they are peddaling, accept it. Drink a little and make a deep in thought face, then look one in the eyes and say, "Tell me something, do you actually like this stuff".

Here is the key, before they can answer say, "Because I used to work for Redbull, giving it out at different events, and personally I hate the stuff."

If she says that she hates whatever it is, you have an instant in. 9 times out of 10 though, she will say that she loves it and that it is the best beverage around. In which case you roll over to your first neg and make some subtle comment about her being a whore to her product (so to speak). This will make her feel like a liar, whether she is lying or not, but can be quickly comforted by your saying "Haha, its okay, Ive got mad respect for a girl who takes her job seriously.

It has always worked pretty well for me, and helped to get a conversation going. If you engage them though, be sure to say every once in a while "By the way, I dont want to keep you, i know your technically working right now".

This is an almost subconscious neg because it is just a subtle reminder that while she has to work, you can afford to be out enjoying yourself.

If you think about it, that one comment can be a neg and a dhv all at the same time... its like christmas!

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I use my home grown one a lot:

"Opinion! My guy friend and a girl friend are flirting with eachother tonight. The thing is, I know their parents, and they just started dating. Should I tell them, or not?"

Generates a good response most of the time.
I tried that one last night, mid conversation though. Apparently I don't look like one, but my emo friend does. Got a smile on their faces.

similar to the drug dealer you have the do i look gay one... it usually brings a laugh too...(b\c some gay guy flatered today, a week ago, a few times this week!) whatever u want...

i also like the masterbation in the shower one... never used it before as an opener only as a neg.... but the problem is it is short and its a little hard too keep the conversation going after the opener!

at a mall i like the clothes opinion one and the colone opinion one...(*kino)
(and girls like smells).

theres also another one i used but you should use it on a big set like four or more:

YOU: "can i get opinion"bla bla

THEM:yes what? \what?

YOU:do you think (and dont look too straight too them look like your half going away) that kissing...pause...(they might laugh or think youre trying too pick them up) is cheating?

THEM:probobaly all gonna say yes.

YOU: but wait you didnt hear the story its not that simple...

THEM: might not say anything or just say whats the story?

YOU:my friend...(cousin or whatever) has been bothering me all week asking for advice,he has a girlfriend and they have been together for a X (doesnt really matter how long)...now last weekend\last week she went to this party, without him she was fucking drunk as hell and in the party she hooked up with this girl!!!
now you dont know what too say right (smile)?

THEM: i dont know bla bla...
YOU: dont even let them answer yet and say "now he doesnt know if he should brake up with her or let it go... they have been fighting about it but he doesnt even have his own opinion"

you can push it more but at the end say what would u do? now youre not really sure about it ...is it cheating or not? (smile)

now this is the fun part theyre probobaly gonna have diffrent opinions and they might even get to a point they actually argue about it!
you can leave and come back and do what ever you want but make sure this is not the only thing u talk about!!!! try to ask them diffrent things where are you from... or when you argue about it go like:point to this one girl who talks a lot and say: whats your name?,keren do you think that she wanted ...bla bla bla or say you are right but...bla bla bla

another way to get off this topic is say to one girl or too all of them havent u ever kissed with a girl? neg them say dont lie to me!
start talking about the girls kissing topic...

another way to get off this topic is when you had enough of this conversation say out of nowhere... "ok so where are you planing to go\hang out the rest of the night? if theyre going home you can neg saying "ohh you have to be home and sleep before eight and give a kiss to mummy?"

if youve been talking to them long enough you can make them come with you to another intresting place that you know about...


good luck man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

similar to the drug dealer you have the do i look gay one... it usually brings a laugh too...(b\c some gay guy flatered today, a week ago, a few times this week!) whatever u want...

i also like the masterbation in the shower one... never used it before as an opener only as a neg.... but the problem is it is short and its a little hard too keep the conversation going after the opener!

at a mall i like the clothes opinion one and the colone opinion one...(*kino)
(and girls like smells).

theres also another one i used but you should use it on a big set like four or more:

YOU: "can i get opinion"bla bla

THEM:yes what? \what?

YOU:do you think (and dont look too straight too them look like your half going away) that kissing...pause...(they might laugh or think youre trying too pick them up) is cheating?

THEM:probobaly all gonna say yes.

YOU: but wait you didnt hear the story its not that simple...

THEM: might not say anything or just say whats the story?

YOU:my friend...(cousin or whatever) has been bothering me all week asking for advice,he has a girlfriend and they have been together for a X (doesnt really matter how long)...now last weekend\last week she went to this party, without him she was fucking drunk as hell and in the party she hooked up with this girl!!!
now you dont know what too say right (smile)?

THEM: i dont know bla bla...
YOU: dont even let them answer yet and say "now he doesnt know if he should brake up with her or let it go... they have been fighting about it but he doesnt even have his own opinion"

you can push it more but at the end say what would u do? now youre not really sure about it ...is it cheating or not? (smile)

now this is the fun part theyre probobaly gonna have diffrent opinions and they might even get to a point they actually argue about it!
you can leave and come back and do what ever you want but make sure this is not the only thing u talk about!!!! try to ask them diffrent things where are you from... or when you argue about it go like:point to this one girl who talks a lot and say: whats your name?,keren do you think that she wanted ...bla bla bla or say you are right but...bla bla bla

another way to get off this topic is say to one girl or too all of them havent u ever kissed with a girl? neg them say dont lie to me!
start talking about the girls kissing topic...

another way to get off this topic is when you had enough of this conversation say out of nowhere... "ok so where are you planing to go\hang out the rest of the night? if theyre going home you can neg saying "ohh you have to be home and sleep before eight and give a kiss to mummy?"

if youve been talking to them long enough you can make them come with you to another intresting place that you know about...


good luck man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i don't like the cheating opener, but the first one and the third one are good. Which means I can now incorperate them into my game. I have really no problem carrying on the conversation, because I practiced how to get them to talk about themselves, and then neg them at the right times.

depends on the time of day.

I liked this one at a night club when salsa/spanish club music came on.

*approached a hispanic woman*
ANDEEZY: I don't think you know how to dance the salsa very well. *smile*
Woman: *Turns to me, smiles, opens up.*
ANDEEZY: Let me show you. *offers hand, BAM! i'm in*

with one sentence, i opened and negged at the same time. Without saying a word, i demonstrated High Value by showing her how to dance the salsa. If she already knows how, she will be impressed that a Filipino guy could do it very well.



Day game:

Andeezy: Hey I want your perspective on something before I head out to my appointment.
Woman: ??
Andeezy: Would you date your best friend's ex-boy friend?

I can easily neg this girl after her responses. Be quick with the wit!

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well i guess ill have to practice that.

that last one probably can work on the high school game (which i am in)

keeping the conversation would be the hardest thing for me... i never understood this thing... so i open with a short opener i know how to neg, i know how to get IOIs and i know how to kino but what do i do all this time between the opener and the 10 muniutes until i no' close or even kiss close... demonstrate value??? but how?

I really don't know what to say since I am an inexperienced PUA. I would just improvise... mainly make sure that she is chasing me, not the opposite. And when she is using the triangle gaze, then go for the short kiss.