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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:31 am 
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Hi people

I was wondering, when it comes to women how much range do we have?
I was looking at a pua guide and it said for most guys 2 levels ahead, for pua's 3. e.g. can a male whos a 6-7 get with a 9 or 1O?
Is this right or wrong? Just curious as my whole perception has recently chnged due to a hb10, does this mean I'm a 7+, lucky or just gaming well as I'm new. I mean a hb10 wouldn't go for below a 5 would they?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:30 am 
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Girls quite often fuck guys they aren't attracted to. I'll break this down so it makes sense.

First of all, society tells you that women are the choosers, however the reality is that a woman can only choose from the men who approach her. Secondly, many pickup gurus tell you that the more attractive a woman is, the more men approach her. So, you should now be thinking that an attractive woman has a pretty wide choice. Well, not really. From my experience, and I've had a lot of it, many of the really hot girls don't get approached that much. From what they tell me, men only really approach them in bars and clubs after having a few drinks to get their courage up. And, unless she is really hot for the guy, she will blow him off pretty quickly - maybe after getting him to buy her a drink. Of course, they get hit on by guys who are already in their social circle or work environment aswell... and they get introduced to guys by their friends, that's a given. But, bear in mind that these guys for the most part have very little game and her decision to be with them is based on looks rather than personality. Whereas personality is more important to girls, given their limited options they will opt for the guy they find the most attractive physically, but this is because all those guys behave similarly. If one of the guys she knows stands apart from the rest, ie. alpha male characteristics, she will be more attracted to him even if he isn't exactly what she's looking for physically.

So, taking into account that hot girls get approached 99.9% of the time in clubs by AFC guys who don't know what they're doing and pretty much rely on their looks to get by, you should have a fair idea of the best way to stand apart. In the most basic of terms, don't do what other guys do. Imagine this: a woman is in a club, and an average looking guy comes up to her. He asks her name and introduces himself, then starts asking her if she's having a good night and all that generic shit that guys ask. She's heard this many many times and of course she isn't gonna be impressed. Like I said, she will only put up with this if she is really hot for the guy.

And now, in steps guy number 2... he isn't as good looking as the guy from before, he's a little shorter, balding a little - despite that, he's well groomed and approaches her confidently, because he knows what he is capable of. He makes strong eye contact with her and strikes up a conversation the same way he would with his friends. He leans back and makes himself comfortable, without asking permission to do so. I'm sure you've heard a woman say there was "just something" about a guy that attracted her to him. Well, that's pretty much it - strong alpha behaviour overcomes your looks ten fold. The second guy gets with a lot of women, and because of this he assumes she wants him - therefore he approaches with complete confidence ... and she can fucking well see it. A woman is very intrigued by a man who carries himself with such confidence, especially if he is of, let's call it, "unconventional" appearance. It doesn't matter what you look like as long as you take care of yourself and make the best of what you have, because when you make assumptions and expect certain reactions from people, you will behave in ways which will elicit those reactions. It's all subconscious. Guys who get laid a lot will keep getting laid a lot because of the behaviour they exhibit due to getting laid a lot. Yeah. Of course, you don't have this mentality when you're starting out but you can fake it till you make it. Whatever methods you study, practice until you are confident in yourself and the more confident and comfortable you become, the better your results will be. Then you'll be on a roll.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:30 pm 
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Great post Dalziel.


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Listen to this guy, he knows what he's talking about.


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Girls quite often fuck guys they aren't attracted to. I'll break this down so it makes sense.

First of all, society tells you that women are the choosers, however the reality is that a woman can only choose from the men who approach her. Secondly, many pickup gurus tell you that the more attractive a woman is, the more men approach her. So, you should now be thinking that an attractive woman has a pretty wide choice. Well, not really. From my experience, and I've had a lot of it, many of the really hot girls don't get approached that much. From what they tell me, men only really approach them in bars and clubs after having a few drinks to get their courage up. And, unless she is really hot for the guy, she will blow him off pretty quickly - maybe after getting him to buy her a drink. Of course, they get hit on by guys who are already in their social circle or work environment aswell... and they get introduced to guys by their friends, that's a given. But, bear in mind that these guys for the most part have very little game and her decision to be with them is based on looks rather than personality. Whereas personality is more important to girls, given their limited options they will opt for the guy they find the most attractive physically, but this is because all those guys behave similarly. If one of the guys she knows stands apart from the rest, ie. alpha male characteristics, she will be more attracted to him even if he isn't exactly what she's looking for physically.

So, taking into account that hot girls get approached 99.9% of the time in clubs by AFC guys who don't know what they're doing and pretty much rely on their looks to get by, you should have a fair idea of the best way to stand apart. In the most basic of terms, don't do what other guys do. Imagine this: a woman is in a club, and an average looking guy comes up to her. He asks her name and introduces himself, then starts asking her if she's having a good night and all that generic shit that guys ask. She's heard this many many times and of course she isn't gonna be impressed. Like I said, she will only put up with this if she is really hot for the guy.

And now, in steps guy number 2... he isn't as good looking as the guy from before, he's a little shorter, balding a little - despite that, he's well groomed and approaches her confidently, because he knows what he is capable of. He makes strong eye contact with her and strikes up a conversation the same way he would with his friends. He leans back and makes himself comfortable, without asking permission to do so. I'm sure you've heard a woman say there was "just something" about a guy that attracted her to him. Well, that's pretty much it - strong alpha behaviour overcomes your looks ten fold. The second guy gets with a lot of women, and because of this he assumes she wants him - therefore he approaches with complete confidence ... and she can fucking well see it. A woman is very intrigued by a man who carries himself with such confidence, especially if he is of, let's call it, "unconventional" appearance. It doesn't matter what you look like as long as you take care of yourself and make the best of what you have, because when you make assumptions and expect certain reactions from people, you will behave in ways which will elicit those reactions. It's all subconscious. Guys who get laid a lot will keep getting laid a lot because of the behaviour they exhibit due to getting laid a lot. Yeah. Of course, you don't have this mentality when you're starting out but you can fake it till you make it. Whatever methods you study, practice until you are confident in yourself and the more confident and comfortable you become, the better your results will be. Then you'll be on a roll.
The bolded part above is MONEY. Once again, well done, Dalziel.


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