Hi Guys

I have been in the game for six months now and originally have great track record wiv the birds however every once in a while I get a bird that's a flake like today I was meant to hook up with this HB10 eastern european bird and she has totally blown me out claiming she has to work (she's an opair)now I'm not saying that she is B.S.-ing me but what I have seen from other naturals & guys that are good in the game is that no mater what's going on in the birds life she will hook up with the guy - what am I doing wrong advise appreciated.

Hot Chocolate

hey man,

just tell yer that she can meet you before or after work,dont take no for an answer but dont act as if you have nothing better to do because YOU DO!! your the one in the driving seat, who's reality are you living in..?

i dnt agree with wot everything shadow is saying, i agreee you need to show your in control correct but b4 or after work means your fitting into her schedule.. she's makin you jump through her hoops.

waht i suggest is not replying to the fact she's working, just leave it when you next speak bust her on not being able to meet jokingly. ask her how she's going to make it up to you the next time you meet? it could jus be an ice cream or woteva, but that shows again your in control and not her. dates should be on your terms dont fight for the affection.
-peace-

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Thanks for the tips I'm totally congruent with having girls fit into my time schedule that's not what I'm asking here. What I really want to know is has anybody been able to eliminate flakes altogetther? As it's quite boring when you have this happen, yeah I know you should be able to do something else (which I do) I was wondering if there is a way of qualifing out so you don't have a flake happen at all (sorry being in sales I'm using sales analogies here) I can do this very congruently when selling but not when getting a bird out on a social (currently very hit and miss) and I think the two really arn't that different.

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i think your probably right, you've gotta punish her a bit and make her wonder why you haven't contacted her. when she contacts you then your instantly in the driving seat.Hot women will flake to test your AMOG status,its in their nature,relish it as a challenge. as enigma says keep busing her balls and punish her when she tried to shit test you, eventually you will be the one doing all the flaking and she will follow like a puppy dog lol

Sometimes no matter what you do you can't eliminate flaking. Sometimes it's just another one of those shit tests that you have to work through. I guess it's all about setting frames.
I think it's David D who recommends that if you get flaked just tell her she's ruining her chances, or that you're not interested in talking to her anymore. If she's REALLY being a flake, and not genuinely busy (in your scenario she sounds genuinely busy), then tell her to go play her childish games somewhere else

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Ok thanks for the advise guys

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"A man of decision can not be stoped a man of indecision cannot be started make your own choice" Napolian Hill

My most recent expierence w a flake is wen she texted me "I'm sorry but...blah, blah). I had had a feeling it would happen cause i broke a rule-I had asked her for a coffee date thursday or friday and she said she couldnt but could on saturday. So basically- I accepted her schedule w her date! Bad.

Wen I got the text I waiting about a half hour and called her! Disregarded her reason for coancelling and said: "wat, are u flaking on me!?" she said blah blah and I said "wat u cant meet me for half an hour for coffee??? I broke a date w another girl to meet u today, not to make u feel guilty or anythng (w a humorous tone)."

We met, I've since ! closed her and the phone is ALWAYS ringin!